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by Cuicui » 01/02/06, 22:46

In other words, the interest of the system does not lie in the calorific improvement provided by H2, but in the fact that the addition of H2 modifies the characteristics of the fuel and allows more complete combustion.
It is like injecting a little water: the caloric intake is not improved, on the contrary, since the water does not burn, but it improves the conditions of combustion of the fuel, hence better engine performance.
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by lau » 01/02/06, 22:51

Benoit- wrote:If the USA returns to good old methods, it is that they do not really have an alternative to oil, right?


Especially since many revolutionary inventions have been bought by the oil companies :!: Image
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by Christophe » 01/02/06, 22:56

Cuicui wrote:In other words, the interest of the system does not lie in the calorific improvement provided by H2, but in the fact that the addition of H2 modifies the characteristics of the fuel and allows more complete combustion.
It is like injecting a little water: the caloric intake is not improved, on the contrary, since the water does not burn, but it improves the conditions of combustion of the fuel, hence better engine performance.


Exactly! Unless, of course, the efficiency of the famous electrolyses is greatly improved or even surunitary (it would take a return of the order of 300% to run a motor in a loop) ... but hey don't go back too much ...

Water injection with Pantone is therefore more favorable .... in my opinion ...
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by nlc » 01/02/06, 23:09

Cuicui wrote:In other words, the interest of the system does not lie in the calorific improvement provided by H2, but in the fact that the addition of H2 modifies the characteristics of the fuel and allows more complete combustion.
It is like injecting a little water: the caloric intake is not improved, on the contrary, since the water does not burn, but it improves the conditions of combustion of the fuel, hence better engine performance.


Exactly Cuicui, I see it like that.

Econology: I don't want to fight but I think you are wrong and your calculation is too simplistic. You make calculations when you don't know the influence that the gas that we bring on combustion can have.

Look at the pantone: What's really going on? Nobody really knows and yet something is going well. And can we associate calculations with pantone? Not that I know :?
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by gibus » 02/02/06, 20:00

nlc wrote:
Cuicui wrote:In other words, the interest of the system does not lie in the calorific improvement provided by H2, but in the fact that the addition of H2 modifies the characteristics of the fuel and allows more complete combustion.
It is like injecting a little water: the caloric intake is not improved, on the contrary, since the water does not burn, but it improves the conditions of combustion of the fuel, hence better engine performance.


Exactly Cuicui, I see it like that.

Econology: I don't want to fight but I think you are wrong and your calculation is too simplistic. You make calculations when you don't know the influence that the gas that we bring on combustion can have.

Look at the pantone: What's really going on? Nobody really knows and yet something is going well. And can we associate calculations with pantone? Not that I know :?
nlc cuicui lau I ride with you on the same track but alas for christophe he is not with us so patience the path can be long (4 months in a lifetime is nothing) we'll see A +
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by abyssin3 » 02/02/06, 20:30

It's also my opinion: the fact of mixing several fuels often brings advantages & few disadvantages, eg the Kerosene / HVB 50/50 mixture turns remarkably well.

Now it's true that listed widely environment, the HVB kit is a winner for the same price.

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You must be aware of one thing, it is that (it seems to me), the battery is constantly in charge, via the alternator belt which turns continuously. So if we charge it for nothing, it amounts to a loss of energy. But if we intelligently discharge it so that it does not charge for plums, we optimize the overall yield, even if it is twisted ...
In any case, one thing is certain, it is that the alternator belt turns all the time, and puts a constraint (therefore consumption) on the engine.

I suggest that we subscribe and have a serious person tested on the site to experiment.


I am ready to make my vehicle available (conditions to see). I had in mind to do a doping with water, but hey ... why not :-p
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by nlc » 02/02/06, 20:40

Gibus : Arrow: FYI on my side and with a few others we build the system ourselves. Take a look at the subject "improved electrolysis" in the section "tip to consume less and special engines"

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by abyssin3 » 02/02/06, 20:41

Gibus : Arrow: FYI on my side and with a few others we build the system ourselves. Take a look at the subject "improved electrolysis" in the section "tip to consume less and special engines"

It was also the question I asked myself ...
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by Christophe » 02/02/06, 20:48

nlc wrote:Econology: I don't want to fight but I think you are wrong and your calculation is too simplistic. You make calculations when you don't know the influence that the gas that we bring on combustion can have.



Well, I didn't say they were simple in the intro, right? But at least they are correct based on an electrolysis of water producing H2 ... because the reasoning of Moreau who speaks in liters of gas is worth nothing at all!

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by nlc » 02/02/06, 20:53

But you calculate the energy intake of H2, while the goal is rather to improve the combustion of the original fuel, it's different, it can't be calculated like that.

Look at the pantone in which you believe: energy level what do we bring? Not much, dry steam at high temperature.
And yet it works!
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