MGP-CAPS danger engine !!!!

[stef5555]

I would not comment on the price of 299€

Really, why???

[Christophe]

a bench test !!!!!!

I'm going to be the devil's advocate on this one, but do the great engineers of thermo laboratories think of making consumption tests. in variable regimes ie really corresponding to the reality of road behavior. From what I read / see the tests are carried out at stabilized speed by increasing the braking torque. No test seemed dynamic to me ... but I may be wrong?

This may be a way of explaining the lack of results from doped tractors passed on the bench while the farmers reduce their annual consumption by 30% ...

[elephant]

maybe you are not entirely wrong, but, a car driving on the highway or a tractor on a furrow, these are still fairly stable load regimes, and over a given time, eg an hour, c is what makes the most of the engine consumption.

Besides, all the same, if these things boosted with perlimpinate of escampette worked that would be seen on the bench, right?

[Christophe]

maybe you are not entirely wrong, but, a car driving on the highway or a tractor on a furrow, these are still fairly stable load regimes, and over a given time, eg an hour, c is what makes the most of the engine consumption.

No ... a tractor in a furrow is far from being constant: unevenness of course but above all: earth for or less furnished, stones, roots, mole hole ( ) ... The regulator is constantly agitated ... and moreover it is there for that!

For the car on the highway, it is obviously where it is the most stable, but there are always disturbances: wind, overtaking, and also unevenness ... changes in road surfaces also certainly play a role ...

All this can go up from 20 to 30% of variation of power (around the average power) I think ... but I can be wrong and I would be curious to see a real statement because as soon as we talk about power, l objectivity evaporates.

Examples: the average load of an F1 or mans car is between 30 and 40% ... no more no less and, on average, it's already huge ...

Besides, all the same, if these things boosted with perlimpinate of escampette worked that would be seen on the bench, right?

If the measurement method is not good no it would not be seen... look at water doping ... generally there are no results on the bench and yet there are in the fields and on the road then? Do you believe the placebo effect on an agricultural tractor? Not me...

[Woodcutter]

[...]Example: the average load of an F1 or mans car is between 30 and 40% ... no more no less and, on average, it's already huge ...[..].

It depends on the circuits ...
In Monza for example, the full charge time exceeds 75% of the total time of a lap ...

[Christophe]

Uh 75% I can hardly believe it .. roughly speaking it would make 600 hp on average so an average speed greater than 300km / h ...

Unless you're talking about the position of the accelerator pedal ... we agree ... but it's not the average load ...

[Woodcutter]

The load is what you ask the engine ... You can very well be at low load at low speed: you will not have your maximum power ...

At Monza, 75% of full load means 75% of the time, the accelerator is fully down.

Otherwise, the average in Monza must be around 240 km / h.

[Other]

Hello

The load on a boat or on a plane is well determined is fairly stable throughout a trip.

The load does not mean only a% of accelerator it must be in relation with RPM of the engine.
on a bench there are several curves that full opening of the pappillon and the engine is braked until friction becomes too high
the other curve is with a roping propeller (the one that most resembles reality, although there are many other factors that influence the use of the vehicle.

In this case (the best) consumption is around 2400rpm, which is true for the targeted propeller, but with a finer propeller it is located at 2200 rpm
Again, you have to be careful with the interpretations when we talk about better performance, it is a combination of fuel for the CVs delivered by the engine without taking into account the vehicle.

The graphic speaks for itself
at maximum brake the test is done above 2000 rpm (too much lateral friction on the pistons (especially on this super square engine with short connecting rods)

Andre

[albertif2001]

I have been using MPG CAPs for 6600 km for 4 months. And I discover this forum and I'm on the c ...

I'm looking to go to the site in quebec, given:
by jerome243 Guest MessagePosted on: Thu 10 May 2007, 04:47 Post subject: MGP-CAPS danger moteur !!!!, this site being:

http://www.caaquebec.com/Accueil/Automo ... bf42526b47

The answer is, (I copied and pasted):

The page you want to access is no longer available at this address.

BIZARRE from bizarre ........

So? What credibility should be given to what is said to be said on the Quebec site?

It's a question? And without aggressiveness.
Because I only have one car and I don't want to gun it down, because I'm retired in Aquitaine and can't afford it ... etc ...

I consume between 1 liter to 1.1 liters less per 100 km
, (ie 7.5 liters at 6.4-6.5 liters / 100 km), so I do 135 km more per tank, with my laguna I from 1994. At technical control I have 0 in accelerated CO and 0.03 in slow motion.

Are there other sincere and credible testimonies, positive and negative?

Regards, guy

[delnoram]

Are there other sincere and credible testimonies, positive and negative?

Regards, guy

The main thing that has been said about MGP-CAPS in the forum is located here , 65 pages , the experiment was carried out by a member whose seriousness is not in doubt and he gives his conclusion on the subject.