Magnetic motor with constant imbalance

Tips, advice and tips to lower your consumption, processes or inventions as unconventional engines: the Stirling engine, for example. Patents improving combustion: water injection plasma treatment, ionization of the fuel or oxidizer.
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by quartz » 06/04/10, 10:55

Hello everybody

Your idea is not new EDF, there are on forum, among other beautiful literature concerning it.
A good reflex consists in consulting what has already been done, redoing some experiences, to acquire personal certainties,
And then you choose your axis and you start.
these are not empty words, I have some models behind me.
But hey I have the feeling that what motivates you above all is the philosophical aspect of things.

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by dedeleco » 06/05/10, 17:40

Since you like hopeless perpetual motion, I offer you a perfectly possible one respecting the physical and not inaccessible:
Make or rather use a conventional heat pump PAC where the compressor motor (Stirling?) Is activated thanks to the temperature difference between the air and the earth in depth in winter taken as cold and hot sources (active Canadian well).
Thus no energy other than natural thermal would be necessary to heat to 20 ° C above the temperature of the earth.
In summer the temperatures being reversed, we would have a powerful air conditioning and a heating of the earth and the Canadian well to recover the winter !!!
I invite you to think about the thermal flow, for a KW of mechanical motor, you need a heat flow of at least 30KW (if perfect) !!
No more nuclear power plants for heat pumps !!!!
starting point :
https://www.econologie.com/forums/capacite-t ... 51-10.html

Finally, as the temperatures are fairly fixed in the earth around 10 to 15 ° C, we can use an efficient fluid with a vapor-liquid transition around 10 ° C, allowing better efficiency than commercial heat pumps. !!
Finally for skeptics the Atmos pendulums by Geiger Lecoultre are wound up with an engine running on 1 ° C between hot and cold, created by ordinary temperature variations in a room during the day!
Here we have 10 times more, that is: 10 ° C !! So possible !!
So instead of unnecessarily moving endless magnets, make solderings for low temperature heat engines and beautiful exchangers !!
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Re: Gnawing bone that stands upright instead of perpetual motion




by Tagor » 06/05/10, 17:44

dedeleco wrote:Since you like hopeless perpetual motion, I offer you a perfectly possible one respecting the physical and not inaccessible:
Make or rather use a conventional heat pump PAC where the compressor motor (Stirling?) Is activated thanks to the temperature difference between the air and the earth in depth in winter taken as cold and hot sources (active Canadian well).
Thus no energy other than natural thermal would be necessary to heat to 20 ° C above the temperature of the earth.
In summer the temperatures being reversed, we would have a powerful air conditioning and a heating of the earth and the Canadian well to recover the winter !!!
I invite you to think about the thermal flow, for a KW of mechanical motor, you need a heat flow of at least 30KW (if perfect) !!
No more nuclear power plants for heat pumps !!!!
starting point :
https://www.econologie.com/forums/capacite-t ... 51-10.html

Finally, as the temperatures are fairly fixed in the earth around 10 to 15 ° C, we can use an efficient fluid with a vapor-liquid transition around 10 ° C, allowing better efficiency than commercial heat pumps. !!
Finally for skeptics the Atmos pendulums by Geiger Lecoultre are wound up with an engine running on 1 ° C between hot and cold, created by ordinary temperature variations in a room during the day!
Here we have 10 times more, that is: 10 ° C !! So possible !!
So instead of unnecessarily moving endless magnets, make solderings for low temperature heat engines and beautiful exchangers !!


does physics respect nature?
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by dedeleco » 06/05/10, 18:09

does physics respect nature?

Physics observes the laws of nature, very humbly, and the man, with this knowledge, actually makes money, full of neglected future dangers, if they are in 30 years, despite the warnings !!!
No physicist would have imagined the real quantum mechanics imposed by nature, and physicists humbly were forced to respect nature on this property.
Quantum mechanics, very strange, inaccessible in simulations on our classical computers, leads to quantum computers, where transiently, a very large number of small computers in parallel calculate, for otherwise inaccessible results, like deciphering secret bank keys, inaccessible to current computers, even calculating the entire lifetime of the universe !!
Finally, in the universe, nature makes gigantic catastrophes far superior to those of the man: supernova at the origin of our very existence, black holes, meteorites, volcanoes which preserved life, etc ... !!!
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by Tagor » 06/05/10, 18:44

dedeleco wrote:Physics observes the laws of nature, very humbly, and the man, with this knowledge, actually makes money, full of neglected future dangers, if they are in 30 years, despite the warnings !!!
No physicist would have imagined the real quantum mechanics imposed by nature, and physicists humbly were forced to respect nature on this property.
Quantum mechanics, very strange, inaccessible in simulations on our classical computers, leads to quantum computers, where transiently, a very large number of small computers in parallel calculate, for otherwise inaccessible results, like deciphering secret bank keys, inaccessible to current computers, even calculating the entire lifetime of the universe !!
Finally, in the universe, nature makes gigantic catastrophes far superior to those of the man: supernova at the origin of our very existence, black holes, meteorites, volcanoes which preserved life, etc ... !!!


sorry but it was a joke

all this has nothing to do !!

physics does not invent anything

but man makes models

these are not always in agreement with experience
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by dedeleco » 07/05/10, 00:06

but man makes models
these are not always in agreement with experience

Exact, like classical mechanics replaced by quantum mechanics, and therefore if your goal is:
the goal would be to manage to create a machine on our scale having the characteristics of a planetary system, and odnc, a kind of perpetual movement

try in perpetuity by stirring magnets, but as in a lottery, your chances are much lower than that of winning the national lottery jackpot, especially since the properties of magnets are well established and used in a billion devices, proof of the scientific validity of the models based on the reproducibility of endless experiments !!!
If you succeed, you will change the whole world, with new energy.
On the contrary, you are sure you can achieve a self-powered heat pump using as sources the temperature difference between day and night, or that between air and earth, in winter or summer.
But the Carnot principle, model proven since 1830, requires that to have 3 to 4KW of heating at 20 ° C (COP from 3 to 4) to achieve the 1KW necessary for the compressor of the heat pump you will need to have a heat flow of 30KW at minimum coming from the hot spring around 10 to 13 ° C with the cold around 0 to 3 ° C receiving 29KW of hot !!

If you do much better, you will have shown that this model, erected in principle is not always in agreement with experience, but I am ready to bet and win a million Euros that the principle of Carnot will remain a model always in agreement with all experiences.
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by Tagor » 07/05/10, 14:17

dedeleco wrote:
but man makes models
these are not always in agreement with experience

Exact, like classical mechanics replaced by quantum mechanics, and therefore if your goal is:
the goal would be to manage to create a machine on our scale having the characteristics of a planetary system, and odnc, a kind of perpetual movement

try in perpetuity by stirring magnets, but as in a lottery, your chances are much lower than that of winning the national lottery jackpot, especially since the properties of magnets are well established and used in a billion devices, proof of the scientific validity of the models based on the reproducibility of endless experiments !!!
If you succeed, you will change the whole world, with new energy.
On the contrary, you are sure you can achieve a self-powered heat pump using as sources the temperature difference between day and night, or that between air and earth, in winter or summer.
But the Carnot principle, model proven since 1830, requires that to have 3 to 4KW of heating at 20 ° C (COP from 3 to 4) to achieve the 1KW necessary for the compressor of the heat pump you will need to have a heat flow of 30KW at minimum coming from the hot spring around 10 to 13 ° C with the cold around 0 to 3 ° C receiving 29KW of hot !!

If you do much better, you will have shown that this model, erected in principle is not always in agreement with experience, but I am ready to bet and win a million Euros that the principle of Carnot will remain a model always in agreement with all experiences.


I prefer this one

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=las ... HPKSdRRPCQ
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by dedeleco » 07/05/10, 16:52


Very well done! This proves that your cotton covered wire is doing the trick. All of my Stubblefield coils always performed better in the ground then when wet on my table. I would bet that yours will too.

When it rained, my volts and mA's went down, but as it dried out, everything got better.

Again, very well done and please keep us posted.

on this patent of March 8, 1898, the copper and iron wires, damp cotton but not too much, indicate for sure that it is the Galvani effect (1771, 1790) on frogs (biological effect with guardrail of balcony) solved by Volta around 1800 with its electric battery, the starting point for all our modern technology !!!
so copper iron battery (0,77V) which works until the end of the iron !!
Fun for eternity to rediscover with a delay of 220 years !!! !!!
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Galvani
http://www.chimix.com/an7/bts/bat72.htm
and even 2250 years old in Iraq !!!!
http://secretebase.free.fr/civilisation ... bagdad.htm
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by dedeleco » 08/05/10, 01:41

If you like efficiencies of more than 100%, heat yourself up with this absolutely weird with efficiency 170%> 1, a small motor to heat a lot more, a rotor full of holes in the water !!!
FUELLES HEATER NO FUEL NO GAS NO WOOD NO GREEN HOUSE GASES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ ... re=related

They have been working on this for 15 years in labs !!!!
The small engine looks very big to me !!!!
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by dedeleco » 08/05/10, 02:40

Another powerful version for US firefighters !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0M2GnQl ... re=related

Another who believes even more! yield 600% !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNBMVsuP ... re=related
and 500%
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sorgApq ... re=related

I did not find a video with 1000% !!!!
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