Make a hybrid 205 Peugeot (petrol / electric)

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by Macro » 04/02/11, 08:19

citro wrote: a mill on a very small stream ... : Idea:


Nice example of a durable solution ... Very easily generalizable and sustainable (especially in summer) ...

I have in my angle of vision every morning when I open my shutters..A magnificent mill (or rather a small flour mill) placed on the small river that flows down from my house .... It was for sale there a few years ago a mouthful of bread ... Neighbors bought it to use it as a transit platform for small messaging (short 1 floor out of 5 used everything else abandoned ... L The lock is in good condition. The turbine has disappeared but the gene is still there ... This property complex could be a real gold mine ... There is enough to make 4 apartments per floor, ie 20 families which could be lit , heated, air conditioned and have a collective swimming pool for a carbon footprint close to zero ...

But hey if one day I buy this thing ... I stop working outside ... I take care full time rewriting the letters of my mill ... : Cheesy:
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by moimart1 » 04/02/11, 11:02

I can clearly tell you that the oil (and even biofuel) car is not the future. If you haven't understood it yet, it will come when the liter is 3 € ...

I think so too, and even more so biofuels ...

It starts with microhybridization (the stop & start)

So that I love the term micro-hybridization of manufacturers, which means nothing, because an engine that stops at lights, I do not call that a hybrid engine ...

On the contrary, the debate makes things happen.

Are we debating ?! But I don't think we get things done ...
BUT you are right some debate about this forum makes me think and act.
So I was talking about non-constructive debate ...

What do you mean by "current electric car"

When I say that I think especially of these cars at 30 €, more the aspect of batteries scares me in terms of recycling (but I would not go more because I am not up to date in the field of batteries and their evolution ...)

I know some. A friend of the electric motorist owns a mill on a very small stream ...

+1, this is a nice example of my words

+1 again for your Citro transport mode!
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by kumkat » 04/02/11, 14:04

Macro wrote:Nice example of a durable solution ... Very easily generalizable and sustainable (especially in summer) ...


except that you will need the agreement of EDF which has a monopoly on wet electricity ... so ... keep dreaming ...
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by kumkat » 04/02/11, 14:08

citro wrote:We even plan to do without a thermal vehicle and rent it if the need arises ...


funny I made the same reflection, why drive all year round with a vehicle that should allow you to go on vacation? I schematize but many people do it since they use the same car all year round including on vacation ...
I also ask myself the question of having a small car for daily trips and rental for extra vacation trips
well it has a limit ... if everyone does the same ... hello rental car fleets ...
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by yannko » 04/02/11, 14:20

kumkat wrote:
Macro wrote:Nice example of a durable solution ... Very easily generalizable and sustainable (especially in summer) ...


except that you will need the agreement of EDF which has a monopoly on wet electricity ... so ... keep dreaming ...


Hi guys,

No, EDF has absolutely nothing to say if your generator is not connected to the network, which is the ultimate advantage of this system, right? Personally, if I had a photovoltaic roof, a wind turbine or a water mill, I keep it for myself, not to have it stolen by EDF. : Mrgreen:
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by I Citro » 04/02/11, 14:21

moimart1 wrote:
What do you mean by "current electric car"
When I say that I think especially of these cars at 30 €, more the aspect of batteries scares me in terms of recycling (but I would not go more because I am not up to date in the field of batteries and their evolution ...)
When I see that in less than 100.000 km my LPG cars bought € 1500 cost me more than € 15.000 all inclusive while I maintain them myself and insure them to a minimum ...
How much does a classic car maintained by a garage ...
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The problem of electric cars at 30.000 €, even if they are overcharged, comes rather from their stupid design, because derived from thermal cars already full of faults (too powerful, too heavy, too big ...).
For my part, I prefer a compact and light car like the MIA, which I plan to buy, if the test I have to do soon proves successful ...

The recycling process for lead and NiCd batteries is well established and that for Lithium batteries is already in place, ready to start.
Personally, I hope that I will be able to recycle my batteries which will have lost too much capacity to run in domestic energy storage applications.
: Idea:
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by kumkat » 04/02/11, 14:31

from memory it is forbidden to install any hydrogenerator system on a watercourse without authorization, it is linked to the strict prohibition to divert the course of any watercourse or river, prohibition created to not no risk of reducing the volume of water arriving at EDF dams ...
I knew a friend of a friend who ended up at the job fifteen years ago for wanting to play with this little game, micro hydro generator and brutal fall of its consumption of elec, edf made a unexpected check, found his little system and complained ...
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by moimart1 » 04/02/11, 14:40

I get out of the electric to go back to the history of my 205 ...

A question like that?
Can an LPG car work on methane?
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by kumkat » 04/02/11, 14:45

pure? I don't think so ... but since I feel that the hack is tricking you, why not get into a pantone engine?

https://www.econologie.com/forums/index.php?c=11
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by moimart1 » 04/02/11, 14:54

yes but the gain in pantone is not terrible ...

I'm also looking for a 205 diesel with vegetable oil
I did some calculations and I found that I would save € 1000 every 15 km between my 000 GR and a 205 diesel with oil

But I am perplexed because the diesel engine is more restrictive ...

PS: I have free oil ...
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