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Tips, advice and tips to lower your consumption, processes or inventions as unconventional engines: the Stirling engine, for example. Patents improving combustion: water injection plasma treatment, ionization of the fuel or oxidizer.
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by PITMIX » 29/01/06, 20:12

Indeed for the turbo steamer which uses the heat lost in the exhaust But the TIGERS him only uses the speed of the exhaust gases to turn a turbine supposedly at 80000tr / min and therefore to recover 6KW. I have to find the operating diagram.
http://www.moteurnature.com/actu/uneactu.php?news_id=896
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by Christophe » 29/01/06, 20:56

T ° and speed / pressure are closely linked ... an exhaust gas at less than 300 ° C cannot be used ... Neither in T ° nor in pressure / expansion via a turbine ... (especially if the engine is already equipped with a turbo)

The 6kw are reached are undoubtedly at full engine load ... so when the vehicle is already at 200 km / h ... Where is the ecological interest ???

However sites like engineNATURE promote it without any analysis ... it's quite lamentable on their part ... but means many things .... : Evil:
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by Other » 29/01/06, 21:38

Hello
The turbo on cars currently has a response around 100kmh over 2000rpm which means that we use a vehicle 60% of the time in town so not very interesting.
Another thing I saw an engine plan on the forum with a turbo compound with gears, which helps the engine, it is an engine for a laboratory ...
Those who have played in turboprop or helicopter turbines know it, the small pinion the first that comes out of the turbine which turns at 40000rpm makes no old bones, it must be inspected and changed regularly, the gearbox is very sensitive to the temperature of the oil and this requires fairly regular maintenance on the bearings of this turbine stage.

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by PITMIX » 29/01/06, 23:35

Oh no : Cry:
I'm on it I really thought this invention was great. Don't you think that if it is reliable it could be good?
I thought that in the case of an addition of equipment consuming electricity like the first example of nlc could be powered by something like the TIGERS. It allowed in my idea to supply the electrodes without creating losses in the alternator, therefore even more savings.
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by paotop » 30/01/06, 15:01

bah ...... to produce juice, there must be a means of coupling a generator to the transmission which would only switch on during the deceleration phases.

you throw a mass on wheels of more than a ton and nobody uses this inertia to generate energy ........ whereas this mass anyway makes it gain speed to brake it followed by "bleeding".

there is no waste there : Mrgreen:
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by Sdc77 » 30/01/06, 15:09

bah ...... to produce juice, there must be a means of coupling a generator to the transmission which would only switch on during the deceleration phases.


: Arrow: And long live the toyota pryus : roll:

Too difficult to implement for our little DIY hands and our small purses (literally ... : Mrgreen: )

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by paotop » 30/01/06, 15:41

Sdc77 wrote:
bah ...... to produce juice, there must be a means of coupling a generator to the transmission which would only switch on during the deceleration phases.


: Arrow: And long live the toyota pryus : roll:

Too difficult to implement for our little DIY hands and our small purses (literally ... : Mrgreen: )

ndc



and above all too expensive for briconologists ..... : Mrgreen:
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by Other » 30/01/06, 15:44

Hello Paotop

Many trucks are equipped with an electric brake, except that the energy is dissipated in discs while running faucault.
it could have been a generator, but still there, it takes the battery tank to absorb this energy,
The goal in a long descent in the mountains the brakes would turn red, the system is not very popular in America
he uses the Jacob brake. (rather noisy and forbidden in use in some cities)

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by paotop » 30/01/06, 16:05

there are bus retarders too, but this was to tell pitmix that if he was trying to produce juice for another application on his car, there is more profit than a turbo-generator by scratching a little head : Wink:
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by nlc » 30/01/06, 23:48

I invite you to read this: http://pesn.com/2005/03/31/6900075_Tour ... G_Contest/
It's in English.
It's a competition for the best mileage per gallon (3.785L) of fuel.
These are mainly recent hybrid vehicles competed. The others are biodiesels or vehicles turned into hybrids.
And who comes second in terms of consumption? A vehicle of 2 doped with hydrogen! It's actually Fran Giroux, the person behind Hydrogen-Boost.

You can also find the story of the race on its website: http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/June%202005.html

It would even happen that it was cheated by the judges ...
Note that it doesn't give a damn to win a victory with an old vehicle against recent and overpriced hydride vehicles ...

Good reading

PS: he flirted with 100mpg, or 100 miles per gallon, or about 2.35L per 100km!
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