Molecular dissociation of water by electric field

[Obelix]

BEN VOILA, IT'S SMART!

I rushed, I fed the kit before having soldered the "antenna", resulting in an arc of 4cm between the welds of the circuit and nothing ...

What do you think burned down? the transistor, the coil, a condo?
no black marks.

Hello,
4 against 5 that it is the transo
1 against 5 for the coil

There's more than that, and plug in the antenna

Obelix

[elephant]

it is very likely that D2 and D3 are screwed up.

check your transformer with the ohmmeter (continuity of primary and secondary, secondary-primary insulation, although here it does not mean much

that said, we must also see where you tried the circuit: if you have not taken special insulation measures (here, you need at least 1 cm of air) well you've burnt your transistor. to see if you have burnt your transisitor, see if you have a drink.

[Capt_Maloche]

1 cm of air?

it arched 4 cm !! between the solder points of the circuit

The ambient hygrometry was then 70% (it can play)

Will I have to isolate the back side of the circuit?

Done riehc, so I have to restart the components to check them one by one ...
My multimeter allows me to check the transistors

Or, I take one of my ionizers apart

[elephant]

4 cm! this is what we put as the wire-skirt distance in the lifter at 28 KV!

in my opinion: file the tails of the components (to avoid the power of the tips.) or bend them before soldering
several coats of CI varnish on both sides!

[Capt_Maloche]

news from the front: http://spqr7.wordpress.com/2007/09/15/leau-salee-brule/

I can't read the wattmeter well, but apparently the power consumed is more than 100W for a small flame, nothing to show off

on the other hand what is interesting is that the salt water "burns" while the "soft" water does not

[Bougonnator]

Hello,
I had tried on a Picasso, a Toy Camry and my bike a BMW K1200 RS. I ended up taking everything apart because I regularly forgot to turn off the assembly and that ended up draining the batteries for a result that was not necessarily palpable. Better in consumption but may be linked to the placebo effect. The blue men also do a lot (and even more) to lower the consumption of my vehicles by stationing themselves at the side of the roads with their binoculars and their barbecues.

I saw a little better in wet and cold weather and nothing in dry weather. It would take a more powerful assembly than that of Conrad and injecting water can be hot or in vapor phase to can be significantly change the consumption?
Obtaining 2,45 Ghz is done with a magnetron which is commonly found in microwave ovens since these ovens use the resonant frequency of water to heat food. But beware, this is not without danger and you have to make a really perfect waveguide so as not to burn out synapses and neurons.
But after all, why not ?
As far as I'm concerned my car is still under warranty, I prefer not to touch it. When on my bike, I try to sell it so same remark. And then I have too many emm ... in progress at the moment to have time to experiment.

[Capt_Maloche]

A little up of the business

It's been a while since I put together a 7 / 8Kv kit
I easily light a neon with it, but on the deviation side of the stream, it's pretty blah, wouldn't it be a problem of polarity?

[coucou789456]

Hello

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Obtaining 2,45 Ghz is done with a magnetron which is commonly found in microwave ovens since these ovens use the resonant frequency of water to heat food. But beware, this is not without danger and you have to make a really perfect waveguide so as not to burn out synapses and neurons.
But after all, why not ?
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it only heats the water, nothing more.
where does this frequency of 2.45 GHz come from as being the resonant frequency of water?

jeff

[Capt_Maloche]

It is the frequency of the magnetrons of microwaves to a few mHz near, now, it is true, why precisely 2450 Mhz?

Now I have found some answers on another forum:
http://forums.futura-sciences.com/chimi ... ecule.html

Hello

First of all, what do you mean by the resonance frequency of a molecule?

If these are vibration frequencies then a molecule has several. The water molecule has 3 frequencies of vibrations. We can actually calculate them but also measure them. For water we have a frequency around 48000 GHz and two frequencies around 100000 GHz.

We are very far from the 2,45 GHz of the microwave oven! This frequency has nothing to do with the vibrational frequencies of the molecule.

On the other hand, the water molecule being polar (negative charge on oxygen and positive charges on hydrogen atoms), this molecule will tend to align with the electric field of microwave radiation. This field changing direction 2,45 109 times per second the molecule will therefore change orientation as many times per second and the friction between the water molecules will therefore release heat

Well, there must be technological reasons for this choice of frequency. But I think that this frequency is quite compatible with the time of "turning over" of the water molecule (this frequency is not so far from the frequency of rotation of the water molecule in the gaseous state) .

Re: Resonance frequency of a molecule
To complete this, we can say that the absorption of the electromagnetic wave will present a maximum for a frequency called the dielectric relaxation frequency. This frequency naturally depends on the molecule (its size and its polarity) but also on the temperature. It is perhaps this frequency that you call resonant frequency. I don't know if we can calculate it.

[coucou789456]

Good evening

indeed, we are very far from the said resonant frequency, but well, with files and some precision tools, we are going to adjust the magnetron! (dreaming is good for neurons sometimes)

on the other hand it comes to me an idea, by carrying out a traditional electrolysis but with wire mesh electrodes, we could on either side of these electrodes position 2 metal plates to which we would connect a very high voltage, to create a kind of amplifier electrostatic...

especially if 5 to 6 Kv are not sufficient to decompose the water, but added to a conventional electrolysis, the yield could be greatly increased.

jeff