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by Did67 » 06/12/10, 16:35

In addition, it seems to me to remember that an organism like "what to choose" had tested tires of brands and "trucmachin" made in ...

Well, the difference in wear made brand tires more profitable! (price / mileage ratio).

As one person does not make a generality, I agree with you that my brother-in-law, a cautious driver, had set up some sort of unknown sub-brand made in Taiwan (half a dozen years ago). and had finished in the set!
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by chatelot16 » 06/12/10, 17:15

it's not just the wear that counts for a tire! a good tire that wears the road and lasts a long time will not necessarily be the best road holding

a very soft rubber tire will have better handling on wet roads, snow and even ice ... but will wear out at full speed

for me the solution to have a good grip on wet road even with hard tire is narrow wheels of large diameter, style 2cv
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by Lietseu » 06/12/10, 19:01

Traplines to all

Putting quality tires on a car is the beginning of common sense ... a car, it is expensive and it must (in principle) respect and last ...
It must also be a place a little safer than the street.
Of course I will not indulge brands that have my preference, I tested the Michelin economic, I will not put any more!
Yes they are resistant, yes we win tunes because yes, we consume less, but in road holding in the wet there is no picture and dry also, if Tophe is ok.
At the next message I give my favorite brand, but hey we are not there to promote the tires, but to talk about safety experience and there over-inflated tires with 3 bar of good evening the damage, it is not a driving game!
Econology is not equal to furious madness of the economy at all costs!
It is necessary to keep and to put security first.
The soft tires hold infinitely better regardless of the climate if they have a well-designed design, the rest is also based on your type of driving and your car and also your finances.
Good advice is first and foremost, you only have one life and one health, there is no ratrappage possible to the shelves of multiple lives, you are not in an electronic game, and I have not I do not want to have to write to you what happens when we are better able to do what we like to do, the end of the elementary lesson.
Enjoy life and what it offers you and stop lamenting the price of things, if you can afford a car and also assume your safety and that of other users, it has no price!

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by FUX. » 06/12/10, 23:33

Hello everyone,

The usual econologists debate dry, so much the better we learn a lot of interesting things! But sometimes it seems to me a perfectionist chill at the limit of paranoia.

I had tested low-end tires, new the rubber was hard and loss of direction quite quickly, but that is a little improved once they were "done" (besides, the rumor that we fitting its new tires to the rear seemed wise to me). Once dead (~ 22kms) I change to michelin energy, the road holding was much better, on the other hand it only held 000! the sudautals that I had from OCCAZ with the body made more than 25 km with me, although at the end it was limited, a third of a tire was blistered and the other on the scrap, the car vibrated not badly but nothing broke (it was sure that it was not the race). (edit: small precision it's not a massive cube but an ax)

I always roll over-inflated at 0.3bars and in general as I avoid braking in turns to have to re-accelerate, the inside of the tire is eaten before. Besides, I wondered what was more ecologically profitable.

For the supermarket oil that surprised me too but 2 trustees who touch a lot of scooters / moped / 50cc also told me that there was more risk of engine tightening.
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by chatelot16 » 07/12/10, 00:20

for the tires you have to know what you want ... if you want to ride the economy, always far from the limits of road holding, we can choose the tires that wear the least

the one who has the habit of driving like a madman must choose the best tire for the road held otherwise it would be dangerous, but is it environmentally friendly to drive so fast?

and there is not only the quality of the tire, there is also the design of the car ... with big and narrow wheel I think it's better even with bad tires, than with car small and wide wheel
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by Obamot » 07/12/10, 03:03

FUX. wrote :supermarket oil

It is better to do frequent oil changes with basic oil than to buy oil for F1 which you do not have to use given the speed limits, the same if you drive "econologically" ...
In addition, manufacturers must follow European standards ... So for "standard" oils, whatever the brand, it is cap-white, white-cap according to our chemist!

For tires, I take Barum (under Continental brand). Very comfortable and profiles studied by the mask. No worries for everyday use. By cons the price breaks the house down.

Mebon, those who make purchases "citizens" to promote local industries, I have nothing against.
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by Obamot » 07/12/10, 13:47

... and I put you the reply of Oiseautempête sent by MP:

oiseautempete wrote:[...] the quality of the oil needed depends greatly on the engine technology and the drain interval ...
Certainly on a basic engine a low-end oil drained more often than the manufacturer's recommendation (especially if driving in town and even more if driving is economical = favoring heavy loads at low speed and fouling), we can be satisfied with a basic oil, but you should know that the basic oils do not have the same performance because less fluid: on modern engines we use at least 5w40 oils and more and more often 0w30 to reduce consumption.
The downsized engines do not support low-end oils because they work in very harsh conditions ...
In addition, for small rollers, a basic oil does not go because degrades too quickly (1an maximum use), while a synthetic oil is much more stable in time ...
The engines that take the longest time consuming the least on average is always on cars that make the maximum highway with quality oils ... eg a friend, mechanic in racing, made 750 000km ( + of 50% of motorway) with its CX turbo diesel (120cv), original engine never opened (maintains normal according to maintenance book), but with Total 9000 5w40 oil, more fluid than the manufacturer's recommendation ( 10w50) ...

It all seems very fair to me. There are, however, “economical” oils with different fluidity indices (you must try to choose and buy them when there is some ... because they are not always available. In addition, there are large distribution chains. who test their products and do not put anything on sale, in many cases, it is stupidly a "major" who produces for a "no name" you have to inquire.)
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by Flytox » 07/12/10, 19:37

chatelot16 wrote:and there is not only the quality of the tire, there is also the design of the car ... with big and narrow wheel I think it's better even with bad tires, than with car small and wide wheel


Large wheels gum better than small wheels (like Austin mini : Mrgreen: ) the poor quality of suspensions and especially on degraded coating ..... otherwise I do not see too much where is the difference.

Especially since to compare, it is rather difficult to mount the choice of small or large wheels on the same car. : Mrgreen:
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by chatelot16 » 08/12/10, 01:51

it is difficult to change the wheel size to try on the same car: it's even forbidden ...

but i just found that my citroen gs with big and narrow wheel holds a lot better in rain and snow than other car has wider tire

it's very clear for aqua planing! the more a tire is stretched over the water and easy to evacuate on each side
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by Macro » 08/12/10, 09:35

I had ridden on my old 123pnneu tires from 48 € XNUMX € delivered to my home..I had never had on this vehicle a tire too expensive with such a hold and longevity ..J tried on my zx and on my new journey to reiterate the operation ... :| :| :| Unnamed crap .. (not the same drawing ...) on the dry impeccable wet we wonder if we will succeed in taking the slightest curve without slipping ... On the snow impeccable..Incomprehensible ..

Always lightly over-inflated from 0.2 to 0.3 ... except in the case of snow ..or I under inflate up to -0.5 ...
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