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by Remundo » 06/12/08, 15:56

Crispus wrote:I do not dispute the fact of paying, provided that the payment is up to the protection. Considering the tricks deployed by the "big" to strip the "little ones", sorry it is largely overvalued ... A bit like paying an insurance which will not cover any loss : Lol:

I meet you Crispus,

Under no circumstances should we be caught up in the machinery of the INPI and the PMOI.

Patents are paying and offer no real protection in themselves, except the one you manage to instill in the claims, and especially that the cash you need to conduct a patent lawsuit.

Copyright is much more favorable to "small" (SMEs and self-employed)
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by elephant » 06/12/08, 17:10

I'm a little skeptical about this kind of "coffee shop" talk of "the friend who"

I demand proof: the number of the patent: although bought back, it remains published and which will prevent us from talking about it and tinkering at the bottom of our garages : Mrgreen:

Another thought: just because a patent "works" does not mean that it is compatible with the standards: some cars of the 70s consumed little, but had NOx and CO pollution much higher than what is now done.
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by crispus » 06/12/08, 17:26

elephant wrote:I'm a little skeptical about this kind of "coffee shop" talk of "the friend who"

I demand proof: the number of the patent: although bought back, it remains published and which will prevent us from talking about it and tinkering at the bottom of our garages : Mrgreen:

Unless "the friend who" has been invited to destroy all traces of his work, the company then undertakes to file a broader patent encompassing this discovery (in case ...) without giving any clues to it. arrive.

To make more clear:

1) Smith discovers a Pantone fixture for the first time at the back of a garage.

2) She persuades the inventor to give her his plans and his prototype "for analysis" against a sum representing in her eyes "all the gold that the Earth has produced in 100 years for the use of people" (La Fontaine)

3) She files the patent for an "orange juice vaporizer" TM : Lol:, the claims vaguely including the words "usable in any type of thermal machine".

And voila :

1) The mechanical characteristics of the reactor are protected: no replication possible without the agreement of Mr Smith,

2) Very smart who will associate this patent with energy savings! : Mrgreen:

As I said elsewhere: the patent is a recipe. If you do not know the knack of the chef, you will have to experiment a few years in the kitchen before arriving at the same result ...

Example: Do you remember this inventor who inadvertently forgot to leave the instructions for his WFC, before leaving for a world Meyer? : Cry:
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by elephant » 06/12/08, 22:37

blah, unlikely. Usually people post first. Let's not re-launch the "great conspiracy" once again
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by Ahmed » 06/12/08, 23:03

@ Remundo:
I have a little trouble following you, you list a list of works of the mind under copyright, and then you write:
Art. L. 611-1. Any invention may be the subject of an industrial property right issued by the director of the National Institute of Industrial Property which confers on its holder or his successors an exclusive right of exploitation.
In law, can means "it is possible to". The protection of industrial works is not exclusively a patent.

I do not understand your contradictory conclusion, since that is the definition of pattern.

I recognize that if you write a text about one of your inventions, the copyright applies to it without restriction, but the patent is defined by other criteria and there can be no possible confusion.

@ Elephant:
Another thought: just because a patent "works" does not mean that it is compatible with standards.

It does not even need to "walk" (at least for the French patent), the patent is a title deed which guarantees (+ or -) rights but in no way its value.
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by Woodcutter » 07/12/08, 15:25

elephant wrote:I'm a little skeptical about this kind of "coffee shop" talk about "the friend who" [...]
I was going to say it !
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by Grelinette » 07/12/08, 15:49

About patents, just a suggestion like that by the way ...

Many individuals design brilliant systems in various fields but do not have the time, money, knowledge or inclination to embark on the tedious and costly process of filing a patent.

To take another example, it may be interesting for a community like the econologists registered on this blog to give its opinion and possibly help with the protection of a patent.

That's it that's all !

Are there pretenders to present the fruit of their genius?

ps: a "project" section can possibly be interesting here
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by fthanron » 07/12/08, 16:23

Certainly this kind of patent would be more beneficial to the community: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source ...
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by Woodcutter » 07/12/08, 16:27

Grelinette, do you have a relationship with the eponymous tool?
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by Ahmed » 07/12/08, 16:47

@ Grelinette:
The procedures and costs of filing a patent are not the main obstacles, the main thing is the marketing: there is work and concern to be made! It is rare that inventors are also good salespeople.

Regarding "genius", I think this is an inadequate criterion. What is needed is a product corresponding to an existing or potential market.
The genius is totally superfluous, except that it is a source of gratification for use exclusive of the inventor: even real, it will not interest anyone.
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