Utopia process

[The Passing]

Published in an article of the New Republic in Tours (last week I think, it is my neighbor who symphaiquement brought me tonight a photocopy of the article in question):

"A little water in his engine to consume and pollute less"


Here is the scanned article:jmmnr20051011.jpg.

[Sdc77]

One shot is Jean-Luc, one shot is Jean-Marc, well done the press <_
In any case, he finally markets it !! And apparently he is still alive ...

[DAN34]

Here is some information on hydrogen, you can make your own idea between the amount of hydrogen supplied by the hour utopia system and promised savings.

Energy power

Hydrogen has a high energy gravimetric power: 120 MJ / kg compared to petroleum (45 MJ / kg), methanol (20 MJ / kg) and natural gas (50 MJ / kg). However it is also the lightest gas (2,016g / mol H2), resulting in low volumetric power: 10,8 MJ / m3 against methanol (16 MJ / m3), natural gas (39,77 MJ / m3). This poses a real problem of storage and transport: whether it is for the use of hydrogen in a vehicle or for transport by pipeline, in a truck, it is the volumetric density that matters. The volumetric energy density of H2 is only interesting in the liquid or compressed state (700 bars).

Read more on this link: http://www.annso.freesurf.fr/H2.html

[Christophe]

Here is some information on hydrogen, you can make your own idea between the amount of hydrogen supplied by the hour utopia system and promised savings.

The production of gas is obviously ridiculous ... even with atomic hydrogen!
And the efficiency of the "classical" electrolyses does not go beyond the 30% ....

[pluesy]

I downloaded the info on the utopia electrolysis the smallest (the one has 1000 euros!) 30l release of H2 at the time knowing that 10l H2 gives about 30wh 30lh it gives 90wh energy input in H2 if a car rolls at 100kmh and what 5l food 100 1 hour it will have eaten 50 kwh and 0.09 kwh in hydrogen I give you the calculation of the percentage of H2 introduced ...: unsure:

[Sdc77]

You do ch ... with your equations of 6ème: angry:
Do you really believe that we will put in the books of physics or chemistry that we can get a lot of energy with little (the on-unit so)?
We must stop believing that "everyone is nice," the supernatural exists, and there are many things that exist and are hidden from us (see JL Naudin and his MAHG). In order to keep the populace under control, we are salivating with so-called technological prowess (ex the toyota pryus). You know yourself that with 1 tube puppy in the heat, tap water and a little elbow grease we arrive at savings seemingly incredible and in any case for the moment unexplainable by the simple equations that we rabache with each shot based on "it's not possible" ...
Once and for all, let's stop speculating on "it can be" / "it can not be" and wait to see what it is. In any case with regard to Moreau and his system, there is no fallout from any customer, so either the product is not yet distributed, or the guy has disappeared, or customers have not finished their tests.
We will inevitably hear about it.
For those who would still like to throw us equations like "electrolysis consumes 3x more ..... and potato and potato ...." go take a lookforum/index.php 'target =' _ blank '> here Dave managed to replicate Meyer's WFC and you can see the videos here
Ndc.

[DAN34]

For those who still want to swing equations like "electrolysis consumes 3x more ..... and patati and patata ...

The only problem is that Mr Moreau sells the qualities of his product, but nobody saw it working or could test it!

[bham]

Well just Dan34, his device is for sale on its brand new website www.utopiatech.fr for the price of 1200 €.
So if there is a volunteer not too much looking at the price who wants to devote himself to the test (JM Moreau leaves a month trial, satisfied or refunded) ... I would be the first to read carefully his findings.
Otherwise, I suggested to Autoplus to try it in place, I do not know if they will follow ...
If we consider that JM Moreau's Mitsu consumes only 2l GO / 100km instead of 7l Go / 100 (guess) before, we have a conso drop of about 70%. On 25000km / year, we therefore consume more than 500 GO liters instead of 1750 liters before saving 1250 liters or 1360 € (to 1.09 € / l GO), which makes it possible to rent the device of JMMoreau in a year. Now, if the decrease in consumption is lower, the financial depreciation will be longer.
The cost of 1200 € corresponds to 1100 liters GO to 1.09 € / l.
At 70% decrease in consumption, profitability is obtained after 22000 km
At 60% decrease of conso, ......................................... after 26190 km
A 50% ............................................... ........................... after 31400 km
A 40% ............................................... ............................ after 39300 km
A 20% (rate guaranteed by JMMoreau) ............................. after 78570 km (phew!)
Too bad not to be able to be certain of the rate of decline of consumption and the effective reduction of the pollution related to the exhaust gases (via a statement of usher for example). That said if you have a month to test, must see .....
At your savings ...

[A2E]

and supposedly in passing the good old slogan "money goes to money" is unfortunately still relevant to what I see! ;)
eh yes ! to save you must always invest! : Angry:
and those who can not afford, they can still tinker!

[Christophe]

So if there is a volunteer not too much looking at the price who wants to devote himself to the test (JM Moreau leaves a month trial, satisfied or refunded) ... I would be the first to read carefully his findings.

Like me, I had even proposed higher than the members of the forum interested are contributing! So we would divide the risk (because there is risk!)!

But it seems to me that the boss of Sdc77 made a pre-order there are already several weeks not? Where is it?