Magdrive to save fuel

[jonule]

well I'm not aggressive, you should stop the coffee

as you say, I too have the right to be suspicious, nothing extraordinary about it. is it you who says to beware, and you suggest something else, true or not true? Well.

the generation of H2 I'm starting to know, on the other hand the sycomorenn philosophy ... sorry but you're a salesman who denigrates everything else.

for the H2 I will not go to the overunit, I will stop at rainwater ...

apart from that, I support you in your project for an alternative to the piston engine ... as many are doing, compressed air engine etc ... pressurized air engine ... the whole thing is to seduce the manufacturers in the practice !
afterwards, the theory, yes everything is possible ... even the overunit!

[Remundo]

You're really funny Jonule, I'm going back to your text by removing a few sentences ...

well I'm not aggressive, you should stop the coffee

sorry but you are a salesman who denigrates everything else.

Ah well, well what must it be when you're aggressive ... really scary to imagine

For the rest, you can be suspicious of me or the plans of Sycomoreen, but not accuse me and suggest unattractive things about me in the public square like that ... you get the nuance

Thank you for your support for this engine. After the above is very sincere support

For the seduction of the builders, completely agree. I don't think I immediately go to the automobile. I am thinking rather of small engines: portable tools, motorcycles ... which have lower industrial interests and which are areas where lightness and the absence of vibrations are particularly interesting.

Me, I think Jonule that there is no need to prick me constantly as you do.

When I said to beware of the "fuel H2O" system, it was not yours and you are not selling anything for more than 400 Euros.

I fully respect your research or the like. But I am clumsy to think that this is a very unpromising path, and when we start selling it (which is not your case) knowing full well that it is not ready, then there for suddenly, we are really a "salesman" who denigrates "... honesty.

Here is. It is said.

See you soon !

[Christophe]

Stop dreaming, unless you have a superunit electrolyser ... hmm hmm ... the only H2 doping that would work would be the one that would ONLY electrolyze during deceleration phases in order to have a large alternator to really brake the vehicle.

All the H2 generators taking all the time from the alternator or the battery is a big deal.

The only solution: to do electricity other than by taking torque from the motor (effect peltier or seebeck ou BMW Turbo Streamer) ie with engine losses!

[jonule]

ah not stupid at all to take the deceleration NRJ ...
but on the other hand if it is by braking, I do not see the point of boosting the yield ...

once again the alternator would only be used for decelerations, which should be stored in an additional battery called "NRJ recovery", with visible level, and usable as desired like "highway mode" or "acceleration / doubling", but not all the time: just what does the auxiliary battery contain?

but I see that you are talking about peltier electricity to put on the hot side / cold side engine = cooling air, very interesting, without going through a mini mechanical stirling engine, it's a very good solution too!

here I take a quick look at the news of the peltiers:
8,5 A 9,5 W 2,1 V 29.90 €
8,5 A 17,3 W 3,8 V 32.90 €
3,9 A 34,5 W 15,5 V 34.90 €
8,5 A 40 W 8,6 V 34.90 €
8,5 A 72 W 15,5 V 38.90 €
15 A 110 W 15,5 V 54.90 €

it starts to be not bad! the 15.5w can recharge a battery!

the ad hoc doc:
https://www.econologie.com/fichiers/partager/12035059658ld69h.pdf

with a delta T of 71 ° C, they can be placed right against the engine hot water outlet = thermostat! glued thermal paste against the aluminum, with a heatsink on the other side like CPU cooler ...

[Remundo]

It is certain that the engine thermal losses in the form of heat and the deceleration energies are the 2 sources from which it is necessary to draw by all means

@+

[Christophe]

ah not stupid at all to take the deceleration NRJ ...
but on the other hand if it is by braking, I do not see the point of boosting the yield ...

Well, hence the interest of making H2 which will be stored and reused for the next acceleration ... H2 is an "energy buffer"

It's not "not stupid" it's the ONLY effective alternative to H2 doping.

once again the alternator would only be used for decelerations, which should be stored in an additional battery called "NRJ recovery", with visible level, and usable as desired like "highway mode" or "acceleration / doubling", but not all the time: just what does the auxiliary battery contain?

No auxiliary battery but a small storage volume of the slightly compressed H2 ...

but I see that you are talking about peltier electricity to put on the hot side / cold side engine = cooling air, very interesting, without going through a mini mechanical stirling engine, it's a very good solution too!

Ben so good that it's amazing that it is not used by the manufacturer. One of our suppliers has Peltier modules for cooling, I will buy some for testing. Technical doc: 6 Amps under 15V if we manage to recover 10%, in reverse effect, that would already be not bad!

it starts to be not bad! the 15.5w can recharge a battery!

Except that you forgot to take the yield into account ...

[jonule]

Except that you forgot to take the yield into account ...

that is to say ?
peltier yield?
or the peltier + charge regulator assembly?
or that of the battery?

Personally I am a little wary of the H2 storage for the dangerousness of the system ...

a small inflatable ball? a small "hard" stainless steel-style tank (or even scrap) with a bubbler-style non-return valve?

[Christophe]

The yield of a peltier is around 10 to 15% ... from what I remember ...

I am going to order one from our supplier and I will do some tests ... but it will be hard to estimate the power of heat or cold ...

[Remundo]

Assuming that there is no surunity with H2 , don't you think that pneumatic or mechanical storage (torsion spring for example) is much simpler and efficient

[Capt_Maloche]

otherwise capt maloche I want to try, I never thought about it, do you have a link for the signal generator software + the curve?
can you put links?

a hifi amp is enough?

are there surely filters which are not faithful?

what did you get as results / measure?

I was thinking more of other types of pulsed currents!

if it had been so easy to use a PC, meyer would have done it for a long time right?

especially that there is not the famous transformer so precious resonance ...

At first it allows to get an idea, and it does not cost a round

you use your sound card, for example:
Right channel: the signal to be amplified
Left channel: copy of the signal connected to the line input in order to view your signal and correct it

possibly mix the two channels to gain frequency
This will allow you to work in Khz but no more,
memory it was completely distorted after 20Khz, also depends on the quality of your sound card

I was using: C: \ Program Files \ OscilloSpectro2003 \ help.htm the trial version is enough,

but especially Winoscillo which allows you to graphically create your signal !! with the generator supplied http://perso.numericable.fr/haasjn/haas ... index.html in Freeware please

and better to protect your sound card: http://perso.numericable.fr/haasjn/haas ... ction.html

There is also sound generator and others

Make us screen images