Fuel savings with acetone?

[binbins4]

it is a golf 1600gl essence, I have no fuel economy, I realize the antipolution test with a pt tank in the engine compartment, once the 1er tick pulled I add the acetone with the prescribed dose, the next test will be in charge.
the pantone is not finished yet.

[binbins4]

I met a mechanic engineer in a mechanics school I talk to him about acetone, he does not know but he talks to me about the aditifs of the trade, he tells me that it is based on propyl alcohol ( misible fuel, water), I told him that this alcohol is the basis of acetone, remains to know that it is as volatile as acetone
I also told him about the turbulator, he showed me a breech cut with a shape favoring the vortex.

[Woodcutter]

[...] On the other hand I always refused to roll with the HVB, it takes 1,2 L of fuel oil to produce 1L of oil (not very ecological) of more the difference of price is not with my eyes not substantial enough for all the problems that this product generates (storage away from the cold> 4 ° c, common supply because our region does not produce it, fuel oil pump inoperative for this type of product, fuel filter to be changed more frequently, not legal on cars: with the pantone that's 2 !, a product with no future in my eyes in view of emerging technologies, etc ..) [...]

I do not know who told you that, but it's obviously tainted with mistakes, whether they're volunteers or not ...
A publication of ADEME (See here) gives some elements on this subject.
Apparently, this note refers to the defenders of the HVB. He thought, however, that it would now be controversial ...

As for storage, a simple cellar is enough.
For supply, go see Olio, many producers are listed there.
Fuel pump, I do not see?
The filter to change more often is a legend, we only do it once at the beginning.
For the "not legal" side, ALL the modifications made to the vehicles without homologation are in the same case, that it is the Pantone, the electrolysis, etc ...
This is not a "technology of the future" it is a way for those who have the opportunity to less CO2 emit from fossil energy and boost a more local economy ...
Now, no one has ever said that it was generalizable to all, right away!

[lau]

yeah!
I have a pump with private tank that are not free from frost.
From 4 ° c the HVB freezes (sorry my shed is not insulated)
ok for the filter
I looked at the proto "dosoil" of the APTE website http://apte.formation.free.fr/ but you need an additional tank, even for that I have no place (unless you sacrifice the spare wheel !!)
I pay the blank without VAT (operating vehicle) .. the gap is not so large given the constraints.
for the environment I am already riding on a vehicle at 0,23 opacimeter (before mounting) there normally I should reduce again very seriously after the injection of water.
I already have the constraints of adding water to my bubbler, even if last night I installed a car filler (efficiency to see)
no really I'm not hot for the HVB ..

[Woodcutter]

Regarding Acetone, I tried on two full, 0,30% by volume on the volume of oil and it did not give much in conso (not significant difference and only two measures .. ..)

By cons, it was "bump" a cylinder of my engine cold (probably a problem in advance) so I did not continue.

For combustion residues of acetone:
- I do not see what can pose as problems the short carbon chain (dimethyl),
- For the function "ketone", it is a "C" already oxidized, but not completely, so it should not be a problem either for combustion residues are conventionally of the form CO2 + H2O.

[lau]

From what I read on this forum, and take me back if I'm wrong, the acetone should not stay too long in the tank because very volatile.
You should try like others on this forum at 80ml min. (for 40 tank to 50 l) and do the test on long trips for the reasons mentioned above.

[Woodcutter]

[...] I have a pump with private tank that are not free from frost.
From 4 ° c the HVB freezes (sorry my shed is not insulated)

Rapeseed at -10 ° C and Sunflower at -15 ° C.
See this page.
You should go and find out about Oliomobile if you want to know more.

I looked at the proto "dosoil" of the APTE website http://apte.formation.free.fr/ but you need an additional tank, even for that I have no place (unless you sacrifice the spare wheel !!)

No need to sacrifice anything, you can run in single tanks without any modification up to 30%, see 50% in summer if your pump allows it.

[...] no really I'm not hot for the HVB ..

Too bad, I do not see what is problematic and it would allow you to push your approach "econologist" a little further at a lower cost ...

[Woodcutter]

From what I read on this forum, and take me back if I'm wrong, the acetone should not stay too long in the tank because very volatile.
You should try like others on this forum at 80ml min. (for 40 tank to 50 l) and do the test on long trips for the reasons mentioned above.

I used 72 ml (0,3% on oil with mixture GO / HVP 70 / 30% is 24 l of oil) and on long journeys (1000 km in 2 days).
I would not do it again, for the reason mentioned above by me ...

On the other hand, very effective to remove odors in the exhaust!

[Woodcutter]

[...] supply in common because our region does not produce, [...]

You can go on this post there: http://www.oliomobile.org/forum/oliomap.php

You will see that there are producers not far from you ...

[Other]

Hello,
the effect of acetone is more felt on gasoline engines
I'm talking about feeling about acceleration (it does not climb in the curtains)
but we feel an effect, on the diesel of old generation it is noticed less, on the fuel economy it is minimal, and a little better on the petrol engine, the effect is attentive with the time, if it stays a week in the tank we do not notice much. This must clean the injectors at least!


Andre