Fuel savings with acetone?

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by MichelM » 28/11/05, 14:25

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If there is 3 son on the probe is that there is an electric preheating so that it is faster to operate, faster to the right temperature to regulate well ... It allows to have the right mix for gas treatment and faster. But like all engines catalyzed neither the maximum power (richer mixture) nor the economy (poorer mixture).
There were cars (ex 106 80 / 90 years) if the probe shut off the calculator enriched a max, there was apparently no backup strategy.
A mechanic also told me that when we were at the end of the tank (on the reserve) it was not good for the pot, probably that the calculator is setting economic (poor mix).
Now I have the impression that most engines have preheated electric probes and good calculators. For aging it seemed to me that the probe was getting slower and slower to react ...
Otherwise for me, in France and given the anti-pollution controls, I would be a little afraid to tinker with the lambda probe (unplug it, or distort the measurement in the long term) and foul the catalytic converter, after s 'It is HS we are good to change it, if the technical control is not OK. Given the price it must seriously question the fuel savings ... No?
For Lau I think there was no question here of putting acetone in a diesel. Finally, I would not dare ...!
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by Other » 28/11/05, 19:00

Hello Michel
Dare and you'll see, the Mercedes has had its dose and believe me I'm not spared when I want to verrifier something, the tin of 3,8 liter and the entonoir a good gorged and another another few days later.
It's not a small amount like this that will remove the fat from the diesel, I even put a 4 liters of direct oil from the cheapest CANOLA oil store, (less than olive oil)
so the pump is lubricated enough.
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by Former Oceano » 28/11/05, 21:47

The sign of the malfunction was the hot stall of the car after a start, at the passage of the 2ème. Start-up, acceleration on the first, disengagement, engine stalled, hazard warning, contact cut-off, restart.

In short not cool especially when it happens in a roundabout very busy and accident in the morning ...

More this problem since, for the few km that I could do with.
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by gegyx » 28/11/05, 22:58

Thank you for your interventions.
I summarize what you have just told me:
My probe is cooked since 10 years, following small trips; there is no point in changing it, because it will still be HS in 6 months, if I continue to make short trips.
My sensor is not HS, because when I drive a lot more miles, I do not idle or shift.
I'm happy with my 8 10 liters, because at my level, there is no way to easily deceive the calculator. And shorten or attenuate injection pulses (by weakening the voltage)?
There is more than magnets or so, acetone for the bonfire!
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by bob_isat » 29/11/05, 12:19

we may be saving money but does anyone have any idea of ​​what comes out of the muffler when we put acetone? ...
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by Christophe » 29/11/05, 12:32

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ac%C3%A9tone

"Acetone forms a hydrazone with phenylhydrazine and an oxime with hydroxylamine." ( Bless you !! )

chemical formula: CH3COCH3

So the same atoms as an alcohol ... so I do not think that the combustion is very dangerous ... by cons damage that there is not yet the paragraph "effect on health"

We have that: "acute effects":
depression of the central nervous system.
Damage to the liver and kidneys.
Respiratory stop.
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by lau » 29/11/05, 19:00

... and that's where we see econologists : Lol:
it saves fuel but it emits toxic discharges :!:
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by Former Oceano » 29/11/05, 22:01

And yes 80 milliliters in 43 liters of gasoline, which will be burned in the engine, and if by chance there remained some acetone, it would be oxidized by the catalytic converter ...

By the way, for all people who put nail polish, the solvent often contains acetone ... So do not varnish the nails because it fears even more for the environment ... Also for those who use solvents for wood varnishes (for your shutters or boats ...)

And when toxic releases, there is more junk (not to use other terms) in gasoline or diesel than in acetone.

If 80ml allow me to avoid burning a few hundred ml of crap in my engine that will produce liters of CO2, and this is my business ...
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by Other » 30/11/05, 01:55

Hello Lau
Could you tell us this is what are you doing to improve engines now? and to find a source of clean energy?
On the forum we are just small seeds of sands in the big gears of the oil companies.
I just listened to the UN World Conference on Climate Change, in Montreal, it is a question of what sanctions they will give to those who do not follow the rules
Uncle Sam (Georges) send them (to the devil) and do not want to know anything, good example! and you (tabarnacle) you do us morals with lichette of acetone, but inform you on the petrolieres and you will see what shit it puts in super, notament of benzole
and not suddenly 4 onzes and many other products that he will not say.
Look also what puts in the motor oils ....


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by Christophe » 30/11/05, 10:38

former oceanic wrote:If 80ml allow me to avoid burning a few hundred ml of crap in my engine that will produce liters of CO2, and this is my business ...


Exact ... the environment and your wallet are winners ... For the junk of gasoline, I think you all know that benzene, highly carcinogenic, has replaced the lead .... This is the same benzene which is currently polluting the Chinese river ...

Otherwise as I said above, looking at the chemical formula of acetone, there is no reason to really worry since the atoms are the same as an alcohol ... We could have your opinion of ocean chemist?
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