Ecodriving, yes ... but watch out for premature wear!

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Re: Ecodriving, yes ... but watch out for premature wear




by hic » 27/03/14, 09:26

Christophe wrote:
Hic wrote:normal wear of the brake disc
replacement at 60.000km on average

100.000km is normal for your type of driving.

but the enigma persists!


Why I have 150 000 km in the head ???

Hic wrote:Except to consider that brake pads are ultra-efficient

to check the evolution history in material quality


Yes 105 000 km for pads, we agree it's a lot ... but enough logic in eco driving no?


hi Christophe
you surprise me
that I do not know how to replace a brake disc (130 ... 150.000km tested with a progressive braking until the locking of the wheels with 30 40Km / h)

but for the pads, it was changed, used 2 / 3 to make pretty.
good luck : Mrgreen:

if you roll in the country, the premature wear of the disc would come from quartz dust !? typically Alsatian!
_very hard for the hard, but less effective on slack like a wafer.
or / and the plate would become encrusted with quartz

Do you use your car as a 4X4? : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 27/03/14, 09:45

Hic wrote:Do you use your car as a 4X4? : Mrgreen:


No never !!

But as am in the country there is often shit on the roads ... then a lot of salting also in winter ...
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by Gaston » 27/03/14, 10:38

Christophe wrote:
Hic wrote:normal wear of the brake disc
replacement at 60.000km on average

100.000km is normal for your type of driving.

but the enigma persists!


Why I have 150 000 km in the head ???
My old R19 had made 230000 km with the same set of records.
And the technical control did not notice anything when I sold it ...
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by Christophe » 27/03/14, 10:45

My "R19 day before" everything is said ...

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by Remundo » 27/03/14, 11:10

Excellent, the R19! :D
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by Macro » 27/03/14, 11:28

The car to Mamita arrives at 300 000km the discs before we were changed once to 220 000, when my brother sold it to me he bought me a brake game av complete for me to ride .. I just changed the platelets because the disks were impeccable ... Yet it is a heavy and powerful car and not specially driven to the economy (professional use for 3 years and 280 000km)

There are brakes and brakes ... My alfa 156 poor man's model (105cv JTD) is equipped with small non-ventilated discs at the front ... In fast & furious use ... They quickly give slack and start to make noise on heavy braking (yet they are in good condition) ...
The 2.4 jtd 136cv of my beautiful sister is it equipped with larger brakes with discs (and perforated) well it's not at all the same music ...

They also have a fiat scudo 9 places for use pro ... All the trains of tire AV is change of platelets av and once on two disks ...
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by Did67 » 27/03/14, 12:01

citro wrote:
Even on LPG, the engines get dirty and the oil becomes black ... But much less than gasoline, and do not talk about diesel ...

It is true that on a new LPG car, the oil is transparent as the first day when we do the oil changes.


I don't really notice this: the oil is "slightly" browned on my C1 which is close to 100 km or on my C000 which exceeds 5.

But indeed, the color is only the reflection of the "particles" collected.

The "molecules" still end up being crushed and the lubricating power decreases. This is why I respect the recommended intervals ...

So I keep driving the LPG and eco-driving as much as possible. A mlotr, I would say. If I'm still here, I'll tell you the mileage achieved (my C5 will probably die before the hour because it does not roll enough, I keep it as others have a motorhome, it happens to me, when I baroude, to sleep in - I just got home!)

I am not convinced that all the effects attributed to eco-driving are varied:

- the mishap does not prevent a little more serious braking from time to time: a stop down a hill at home; unexpected exit of a vehicle; fire turns red when we are at 50 m ...

- eco-driving does not mean "cold engine"; the aquastat will stabilize the engine at the same temperature as in normal driving; Admittedly, an engine that is going to "hum" will chuaff more at the level of the heads of pistons / cylinders; it's clear ; However, when I ream my hill, the one where there is the stop, I pull my 5th around 2 rpm, the engine also heats up because there, I request almost full power ...

I find that we are here attributing questionable things to eco-driving. Christophe, I am not at all sure that your records would not have warped in normal driving! My first hypothesis in your case and your climate indeed seems to me to be the "rust spots" at each slightly prolonged stop (2 days), after a good salting of the roads and a good penetrating fog ... [it happens, for example with you, it seems to me; I know the area a bit - I remind you that Christophe lives in the Belgian Ardennes and not in Alsace!]
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by Remundo » 27/03/14, 12:23

very good remarks from Did67 : Idea:
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by I Citro » 27/03/14, 12:56

Good comments from everyone. 8)

For LPG, the less soot of soot reduces the clogging of cylinders and, consequently, oil.
Nevertheless, the chemical qualities of the lubricant decrease with time and kilometers, even if its visual aspect changes less than on a petrol and especially diesel car.

If some space drain intervals, it should not be considered as a rule to follow ...
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by Flytox » 27/03/14, 18:51

Christophe wrote:
Flytox wrote:The other solution is from time to time head limit braking in the windshield but without chaining ... This cleans the "icing" of the pads without killing them. : Mrgreen:


That I tried to do, several times ... but without result on the vibrations ...


The vibrations, you may have a warped disc (origin of the problem?), Or it has not worn regularly (not the same hardness everywhere on the rubbing surface?), Or it comes from the tire which has a "flat" and is not running smoothly? Or a crappy shock absorber that lets everything vibrate when braking?
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