Ecodriving, yes ... but watch out for premature wear!

[Gaston]

Look at Gaston who did only 50 000 km with his records ... there is no doubt: there is a mechanical scam ...

For once, I have not changed, it is only marked on the report of the technical control.

[Christophe]

Me neither ... but it will not be long but I will do it myself (3 cheaper than at the garage with parts of better quality brembo style ...)

[sen-no-sen]

The wear of the discs is not only correlated to their use, but also to their exposure to ambient air.
As a part of wear the builders is not limited to not put solid ... like everything else in our time!

The problem is not so much eco-driving but the decrease in the use of the car or a contrario of its over-use.
You notice that in both cases you make yourself *******!

[Did67]

The eco drive fouls a little more but this is reversible on non-supercharged petrol models. On diesel, it is a disaster, especially because of the EGR whose exhaust gases injected into the intake circuit come to condense on the walls and cause significant and irremediable fouling ...
...

You speak there engines, I think. No records ???

And do not clog on LPG at all, I think!

[Did67]

a) it vibrates with the braking as if they were veiled whereas I never never rolled like a brute (which veils the discs ...) ...

b) they are well dug too ...

Veiled, then there! In any case, the relation to eco-driving does not seem to me, but then not at all "logical"!

And dug, so probably oxidation cycles (vehicles not used) followed by braking, light or brutal, this does not change anything, but "planes" the oxides and reduces the thickness accordingly ...

So report to eco-driving: I doubt! For irregular use, not everyday, surely!

[Christophe]

Not logical but the facts are there ...

If this is not a curtain, it may be due to clogging of chips platelet (and it would come from braking not strong enough, dixit the mechanic ... pouted moue ...)

If I do not use my car every day systematically (work at home ...), I use 3 4 times a week, so let's say 1 day on 2 ...

It is certain that the quality of the discs has been revised downward, as I said above: I saw corroded discs on new cars in concession!

[Remundo]

well, ecodriving abyss brake discs ... And not to damage them, it must brake hard.

But it's fun all that!

What are they not ready to invent to mask the drop in quality of disc / replacement pads ...

And if we observe such damage (curtain and corrosion) on new cars, well it's even worse.

@+

[Christophe]

well, ecodriving abyss brake discs ... And not to damage them, it must brake hard.

But it's fun all that!

Yeah bin me I did not laugh at seeing the quote ...

Otherwise yes it's an explanation to bite me the node recess ...

What are they not ready to invent to mask the drop in quality of disc / replacement pads ...

And if we observe such damage (curtain and corrosion) on new cars, well it's even worse.

@+

+ 10 ... everything is said ...

[Flytox]

They invented the disc that must be changed every 2 or 3 years.
Hey, that makes the trade of our poor little dealers turn ... We must think of them too

By the way, most car drives are cast iron and not steel and have always been. It is normal that it rust as a coating would be useless and leave worn with the plate.

After, there is melting and melting and the one who eats more quickly than its shadow must be a special trademark consumable (not much improvisation at major manufacturers)



http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frein_%C3%A0_disque

Technology and Technology
Ventilated disc made of steel.

All kinds of materials can be used.

For records:

Stainless steel (quite expensive, not very catchy)
Cast Iron (most economical, rust easily, heaviest, good efficiency, most used)
Carbon (expensive, extremely light, very enduring, essentially at high temperatures, reserved for competition or airplanes)
Ceramic (expensive, relatively light, very enduring, effective even at low temperatures unlike carbon discs, insensitive to moisture, used on high-end vehicles)

The plates are generally formed of a steel support, ensuring the fixing in the stirrups, on which is fixed by gluing a pad of composite material, which wears out gradually during use. The composition of the pad varies according to the material of the disc and according to the manufacturers. Asbestos has long been used in the composition of these skates and is now banned.

For underused brakes which start to brake poorly ("abuse" of eco-driving ), it does not catch up by braking to death that overheat / flinguent pads and disc but occasionally making 1 violent braking, then cool a few km and start again. At tenth, braking at the original efficiency came back.

[Christophe]

For underused brakes which start to brake poorly ("abuse" of eco-driving ), it does not catch up by braking to death that overheat / flinguent pads and disc but occasionally making 1 violent braking, then cool a few km and start again. At tenth, braking at the original efficiency came back.

That's what I meant in my 1er message ... that's what I practiced in my case, but it was not enough ...

ps: the nuance between "to death" and "violent" I find it difficult to perceive it