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by eclectron » 17/07/17, 19:01

sen-no-sen wrote:At the beginning of the video to 3'30 " he explains to us that Greenland was I quote:", without snow, just a green land full of trees" in the Middle Ages ... which is totally false, since the gigantic ice sheet that covers most of the latter began its formation during the Pleistocene and the oldest ice dates about 250 000 years!

Yes it is true that it is wrong! : Lol:
I told myself it starts badly ....
Too bad, it does not predispose to listen to the rest, especially if one is a priori refractory to speech.
This does not mean that the result is false.
This initial error on the trees in the Middle Ages remains anecdotal throughout the speech.
it was still green on the coast, with grass.
The Vikings went to get lumber in America.

The human brain has the unfortunate tendency to consider a false set when only one element is false. We must fight against this reflex, sometimes a nugget of truth is slipped there, waiting for us. : Wink:
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by Ahmed » 17/07/17, 21:41

The climate of the "green country" was so pleasant that the Vikings did not last long ... : roll:
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by izentrop » 17/07/17, 21:53

Unfortunately, this is not the only fallacy of his speech.
His membership of the collective climate-realistic should be enough to discredit him http://www.liberation.fr/futurs/2016/12 ... te_1538245.
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by eclectron » 18/07/17, 06:54

izentrop wrote:Unfortunately, this is not the only fallacy of his speech.

Do not hesitate to share with us what you have noted other and significant.

izentrop wrote:His membership of the collective climate-realistic should be enough to discredit him http://www.liberation.fr/futurs/2016/12 ... te_1538245.

This is not an argument:
Paul is in the set A.
I do not like the set A.
so I do not like Paul (or Paul's speech ...)
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by izentrop » 18/07/17, 08:37

eclectron wrote:Do not hesitate to share with us what you have noted other and significant.
Most of his arguments are those of Allègre, complemented by Courtillot and summarized here http://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article1450

As he also talks about the harvest dates www.clubdesargonautes.org/faq/climat-viticulture.php

I could not go all the way, just search for controversy to find the others.
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by eclectron » 18/07/17, 18:58

izentrop wrote:As he also talks about the harvest dates http://www.clubdesargonautes.org/faq/cl ... ulture.php

Yes it confirms a global warming like everyone else.


izentrop wrote:I could not go all the way ...

It was too hard to bear? :D
it would have been interesting if you went to the end to tell me exactly who is wrong, (except for the trees in Greenland), as soon as you manage to convince me.
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by izentrop » 18/07/17, 23:15

eclectron wrote:
izentrop wrote:As he also talks about the harvest dates http://www.clubdesargonautes.org/faq/cl ... ulture.php
Yes it confirms a global warming like everyone else.
Yes but excluded the responsibility of the man ...

Perfect, let's keep on burning coal and oil! : Mrgreen:
And to kill the whales.

Whales, a bulwark against climate change is it also an invention of these scientist assholes?
http://www.futura-sciences.com/planete/ ... que-54497/
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by sen-no-sen » 21/07/17, 18:38

eclectron wrote:
This does not mean that the result is false.
This initial error on the trees in the Middle Ages remains anecdotal throughout the speech.
it was still green on the coast, with grass.
The Vikings went to get lumber in America.


Most of the speeches are misleading, especially the passage concerning the thickness of ice in Antarctic (it does not differentiate between pack ice and ice sheets), for the rest we are entitled to a scientist speech of the thirty glorious .. .the worst is that the end of are exposed is based on the principle of the accusatory inversion, namely that in the end want to limit the use of fossils would return I quote to "starve populations"! a height! : Lol:
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