The zetetic circle warming denier?

[Woodcutter]

I would like us demonstrated to me that the earth is a closed system


then it seems that there is a hole in the ozone layer ......

Uh? What is the relationship ? Do you think the "hole" in the ozone layer would prevent the system from being shut down if it had to be?
What's a closed system?

You know the basic principles that make the Earth shows the T ° we currently know it?

Basically, it's very simple:
- energy arrives in the form of solar radiation: 342 W / m2 in annual average over the entire terrestrial surface (IPCC, 2001)
-> 107 W is reflected by the earth's surface or in the atmosphere
-> 67 W is absorbed by the atmosphere,
-> 168 W is absorbed by the earth's surface.

Thus heated, the Earth emits infrared 90% is intercepted by greenhouse gases, which warm the atmosphere which in turn emits IR in all directions, some of which returns to the ground (the other part to space).
Earth therefore receives twice the energy, which is why it is warmer than if there were no greenhouse effect.

it seems that everyone knows that the co² is heavier than air so how does he participates a greenhouse that would necessarily be a barrier at high altitude?

a high altitude over there rarefaction of all heavy gases that are supposed to participate in the greenhouse ...

What have I missed?

The greenhouse effect is not achieved by a "high altitude barrier", you are deceived by the image of the greenhouse ...
The composition in CO2 (which is only one of the 6 GES, in addition to the water vapor) does not vary much with altitude, but even if it was, we do not care ...

What you missed? Good foundation for understanding the phenomenon.

[Woodcutter]

[[...] Yes but when we talk about global climate we talk about gold overall temperature can average the oceans?
then the temperature readings in oceans at 20 th century are not scientifically valid according to lead author (American hawaii..je to search the name)

and think of this: http://www.laterredufutur.com/html/modu ... le&sid=503
and the thesis of Svensmark?

not know the theory of Svensmark.

For your link, there is nothing new, it is well known that the average temperature of the Earth is totally related to the amount of energy received from the sun and it changes constantly ... This is also based explanations of the great glacial-interglacial cycles.
The data we see on this site predict a drop in T ° (only on "rural stations in the United States"?) Which would reach locally 1 ° C ... This is not related to the increase in overall average of the surface of the Earth that is projected by the IPCC.

[thejoker]

I do not understand what is the difference between greenhouse gases and atmosphere in your sentence
the atmosphere is composed of sutout greenhouse gas right?

"Thus heated, the Earth emits infrared rays, 90% of which is intercepted by greenhouse gases, which heat the atmosphere which in turn emits IR in all directions, part of which therefore returns to the ground (the other part to space). "

Finally, what I do not understand
Is it apparently that you have a good basis for understanding the phenomenon but not for explaining it?

[Christophe]

thejoker, stp out of your cave and watch the melting of alpine ice, greenland and arctic during the 20ieme century ...

The deniers are like the guys who are not moved and did not understand the danger of the situation after Kristallnacht ...

https://www.econologie.com/pourquoi-ca-b ... s-389.html

[thejoker]

how these fonts can be linked to a higher rate co² in the atmosphere?
how is there a "greenhouse effect"?
how does man warm up the climate?

(ps there have been in the past periods of larger and faster melting of these ice: greenland = green land in norway .....

ps for the myth of the cave
it's been a long time since I realized that the shadows at the bottom of the cave are only a reflection of the reality of the sun

watch me know the truth even if it the last blind out .......

ps2
the serious people knew before the night of crystal had abandoned uen economic crisis possiblity output (physical economy) with list ....
and what are the bankers who chose this option in order to prevent a strong economic development of Germany and therefore of the Eurasian continent in favor of the Anglo-Dutch trade (always the same logic current of control of the resources)

[Christophe]

Your reactions are distressing ...

Do you believe that Internationnaux protocols in place to reduce the greenhouse effect via discharges CO2 are just a huge joke? Given the economic importance of fossil fuels, pkoi many countries already in economic crisis (so called) is embetteraientt to limit their discharges CO2, so their GDP (in a non econological capitalist economy)?

Just a question: do you have any interest in fossil energies (or in zetes)? The level of your reactions could make you believe ...

I repette one last time that you do not seem to understand: warming (as cooling) climate can be of several factors, the main 2 are solar activity and the ability of the Earth to not radiate that solar activity precisely, the causes can very well be natural (see https://www.econologie.com/l-extinction- ... s-932.html ).

There have already been climate warming in the past as there are also periods of glaciation ... but all had natural causes the same phenomenon is cyclical ... unlike today ( https://www.econologie.com/la-pollution- ... es-53.html ).

ps: in terms of the ehymology of Greenland it was well found but it is rappé:

During the year 982 the Norwegian-born Viking sailor-explorer Erik Thorvaldsson (950-1001), called "Erik Le Rouge", by the color of his hair, sailed to the west of Norway, discovering an enormous island. which he called in Danish language "Grønland" (Greenland and in English Greenland), meaning "green land", trying in this way to give a false image of fertility to attract future settlers. However, on arriving the settlers found themselves with a frozen and hostile climate, although the climatic conditions were better (warmer) at that time than today.

[Christophe]

ps2
the serious people knew before the night of crystal had abandoned uen economic crisis possiblity output (physical economy) with list ....
and what are the bankers who chose this option in order to prevent a strong economic development of Germany and therefore of the Eurasian continent in favor of the Anglo-Dutch trade (always the same logic current of control of the resources)

Can you speak french stp? Well, I'm not sure I like that kind of answer ...

[thejoker]

Your reactions are distressing ...

Do you believe that Internationnaux protocols in place to reduce the greenhouse effect via discharges CO2 are just a huge joke? Given the economic importance of fossil fuels, pkoi many countries already in economic crisis (so called) is embetteraientt to limit their discharges CO2, so their GDP (in a non econological capitalist economy)?

Just a question: do you have any interest in fossil energies (or in zetes)? The level of your reactions could make you believe ...

I repette one last time that you do not seem to understand: warming (as cooling) climate can be of several factors, the main 2 are solar activity and the ability of the Earth to not radiate that solar activity precisely, the causes can very well be natural (see https://www.econologie.com/l-extinction- ... s-932.html ).

There have already been climate warming in the past as there are also periods of glaciation ... but all had natural causes the same phenomenon is cyclical ... unlike today ( https://www.econologie.com/la-pollution- ... es-53.html ).

ps: in terms of the ehymology of Greenland it was well found but it is rappé:

During the year 982 the Norwegian-born Viking sailor-explorer Erik Thorvaldsson (950-1001), called "Erik Le Rouge", by the color of his hair, sailed to the west of Norway, discovering an enormous island. which he called in Danish language "Grønland" (Greenland and in English Greenland), meaning "green land", trying in this way to give a false image of fertility to attract future settlers. However, on arriving the settlers found themselves with a frozen and hostile climate, although the climatic conditions were better (warmer) at that time than today.

so to read you there is no greenhouse effect stricto sensu
on your link it is explained that there was a greenhouse created by volcanic eruptions.
you remember the pinatubo and ash clouds ...
the sun did not pass in this case the ......
nothing to do with co²


the history of its international protocols since 1972 and the rome club shows precisely an ideological position to reduce the access of "southern" countries to raw materials and industrialization ....

for greenland:
there is a link on the net that confirms your statement and that is exactly the same text by ... against ...
http://www.transpolair.com/destinations/groenland/colonisation.htm
extract

fter encountering the pack descending along the east coast of Greenland (not yet baptized), they soon find the land they were looking for; the region is too inhospitable, so they descend south, bypass Cape Farvel and land at Qassiarsuk. For three years, they erected the first constructions. Then he returned to Iceland and named these fertile lands "Green Land" as opposed to "Ice Land" (Iceland).

Erik manages to persuade about 1 000 people to follow him. Two regions are colonized: Eastern Settlements or 0sterbygd (South Greenland) and Western Settlements or Vesterbygd (Nuuk Region).
From the year 1000 few Christians are responsible to Christianize this new colony. The first church, Brattahlid (close to Narsarsuaq on the current site Qassiarsuk) was financed by the wife of Erik.

Then the Vikings of Eastern Operations colonize almost the entire territory of the common current of Narsaq, Qaqortoq and Nanortalik.
This prosperous period ends when the climate becomes colder during the fourteenth century. At the same time, an epidemic of 1348-1349 plague and competition with Inuit, migrating from the icy north, decimate settlers. The western institutions would have disappeared from 1342.

or even
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groenland
or even

In the 14th century, in Greenland, a viking colony established by Erik Le Rouge after a prosperous period will end up decimated by the climate, famines and epidemics, forgotten from Europe ravaged by the plague.

http://alivreouvert.over-blog.net/article-4835392.html

[Woodcutter]

I do not understand what is the difference between greenhouse gases and atmosphere in your sentence
the atmosphere is composed of sutout greenhouse gas right?

"Thus heated, the Earth emits infrared rays, 90% of which is intercepted by greenhouse gases, which heat the atmosphere which in turn emits IR in all directions, part of which therefore returns to the ground (the other part to space). "

Finally, what I do not understand
Is it apparently that you have a good basis for understanding the phenomenon but not for explaining it?

Sorry!
We are not all good teachers ...
And above all we do not always have "students" who start (or pretend) so low in the scale of the acquired knowledge ...

The dry atmosphere consists of 78,11% nitrogen, 20,953% oxygen and 0,934% argon for the major gases. The minor gases, the proportion of which varies with altitude, are mainly water in the form of steam, carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide and ozone. The concentrations of CO2 are 2007 [1] to 0,0382%, ie 382 ppm, while in 1998, it is 345 ppm [2].

Most of the atmospheric mass is close to the surface: the air becomes scarce in altitude and the pressure decreases; this can be measured by means of an altimeter or a barometer.

The atmosphere is responsible for a greenhouse effect that warms the surface of the Earth. Without it, the average temperature on Earth would -18 ° C, against 15 ° C currently. This greenhouse effect resulting properties vis-à-vis the light gases.

Wikipedia link to learn more about Earth's atmosphere.

N2 is not a greenhouse gas, O2 is not a GHG, Argon is not a GHG and there we are already at 99,997% of the "dry" atmosphere.

So, pupil Plaisantin, before coming to do kéké on forums, please open an encyclopedia from time to time ... Culture has never killed anyone.

[Woodcutter]

how these fonts can be linked to a higher rate co² in the atmosphere?
how is there a "greenhouse effect"?
what man warms the climate? [...]

1) These fonts are the most visible expression of an average warming of the planet, warming which is most marked where temperatures are lowest. A higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere, all other conditions being equal, and in a very "mechanical" manner, increases the average T ° of the earth by increasing the radiative forcing.

2) There is a greenhouse effect because our Earth, unlike other planets in the solar system for example, has a gaseous layer made up of several gases some of which (triatomic gases) react to the IR emitted by the Earth which receives energy rays in from the Sun.

3) Man, because of its action of increasing the atmospheric concentration of various greenhouse gases already present before him (CO2, CH4, N2O) and other manufacturing (the Halocarbunes) bears part in global warming.