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by Econosaurus » 17/05/10, 17:57

Hello warriors, no need to bicker, read rather this : Mrgreen:


http://actualite.lachainemeteo.com/actu ... -04-17.php

Our dear EyayakelkechoZ Volcano in Iceland may be for something!

Is the current cloud cooling Europe?

In the current state of the eruption, the impact will be limited. In 1991, the gigantic eruption of the Philippine volcano Pinatubo, whose plume of ash and gas had reached 40 km high, caused, during the following two years, a cooling of 0,4 ° C of the planet. In the Icelandic case, the volcanic particles did not reach the stratosphere, remaining between 6000 and 11000 m at most, which is not comparable. They should have only a limited impact on solar radiation, but according to some climatologists the average temperature over Europe could drop by 0.2 ° to 0.3 ° C in the coming weeks. What all the same generate a "gloomy" summer, cool and humid, because the volcanic particles, in addition to the fact of intercepting the solar radiation, act as "condensation nuclei" and multiply the formation of raindrops: in other words : it could rain or snow more for the next few weeks!



Well, they only talk about a tiny change in temperature. Can they be wrong?


We're lying a little bit about all the current estimates about the planet, so why not on it :?:
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by Christophe » 17/05/10, 18:00

because volcanic particles, in addition to intercepting solar radiation, act as "condensation nuclei" and multiply the formation of raindrops: in other words: it could rain or snow more during the coming weeks!


Totally agree with this, I personally call it "condensation catalyst".

And the water vapor and unbrushed airliners (or military) make EXACTLY the SAME THING!
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by kistinie » 17/05/10, 18:28

Christophe wrote:Tempo Ban or Not Ban?

That Iz Ze Kristine's Kestion!


Not Krrri but rather Kissss, my dear, no R, a lot of ssss. Ssss is good.
Now, if you have fun this way, say Kr

Banner, make yourself at home ;-), that will not change a single thing to the future, to my future and to the rules that make our world go round. You have the right to make me shut up and burn the ideas you do not like, you will not be the first, nor the last.


There are hundreds of experiences that demonstrate the connection of thought and thought. Reproducible experiments, very simple. To insist on denying them is ridiculous, to see, very sad to know.

The climate, as the rest is impacted by the thought of life, is the zero level of knowledge, spiritual and scientific, which is present in all cultures where the mediation is very develloped. That it is unbearable for many, I am convinced and sorry, but it is not me, the designer of the rules of the matter, I content myself to experiment, then to note, nothing more.

Anyway, when the reel and its cracker are fed up with the material behaving abnormally for no apparent reason, they will start to think a little more

In the meantime, not a state laboratory dares to face a real size test of material-thought connection, via a statistical analysis.
The only examples are from the private group.

In short, the facts burst the screen, but motus, forbidden to talk about it, because Dede finds this unacceptable!

What's funny, do not you think?
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by kistinie » 17/05/10, 18:40

Christophe wrote:
Totally agree with this, I personally call it "condensation catalyst".

And the water vapor and unbrushed airliners (or military) make EXACTLY the SAME THING!


Cosmic rays + aerosol = a cloud

Quite right, sir.

At the moment, little solar wind, very strong cosmic rays, aerosol to gass, and therefore, cold.

Now, if we compare to what is happening at the moment on the moon whose atmosphere filled with sodium and potassium on 5000Km thick, a priori by nuclear synthesis under the effect of the fields of neutrinos ... Let's consider ourselves happy to just put a sweater over
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by Ptilu » 17/05/10, 19:09

The problem with the volcano thesis is that the volume of ash and the altitude at which they were propelled are incomparable with the Pinatubo. I think it's unlikely the impact is so important.

In fact, what about the incongruity of the observed phenomenon? Natural fluctuations can be sometimes important (El Ninio)
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by sen-no-sen » 17/05/10, 19:52

Dust promotes precipitation is well known.
For example, it has been shown that it is raining over cities, given the atmospheric pollution.

Moreover the method called "cloud seeding" was used during the Vietnam War (resulting from the "POPEYE" project of 1966), where tons of silver iodide were dropped in order to flood the Ho Chi Minh trail.

The Chinese largely use this technique by dropping ... cement above the clouds ... to trigger precipitation.
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by dedeleco » 17/05/10, 19:56

Well, they only talk about a tiny change in temperature. Can they be wrong

Small on average but already annoying for us, because 1 1,5 ° C is a year without summer or a summer without sun:
In 1816, mean temperatures in the northern hemisphere decreased from 0,5 ° C to more than 1 ° C. The farmers of Europe and North America called that year the year without summer.
........ the 1816 summer, the coldest ever recorded in Europe (in countries with reliable weather), was the cause of a famine that made more 200 000 victims.
The Swiss Alps were particularly affected, so much so that during the summer 1816, it snowed almost every week.

for Tambora Indonesia in April 1815, the eruption of the millennium.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambora
http://dominique.decobecq.perso.neuf.fr/tambora.html
http://la.climatologie.free.fr/volcan/volcan3.htm
http://actualite.lachainemeteo.com/actu ... -04-17.php
http://dominique.decobecq.perso.neuf.fr/Laki.html
The Icelandic volcano is the main cause of the French Revolution and it is impossible to predict the future if it will continue stronger or stop? !!!
Another effect of the pollution of Laki, appears in the darkening of the atmosphere by the volcanic dust, as happened at Pinatubo in 1991, Krakatau, 1883, and Tambora in 1815. The visibility was so bad that all the fishing activity was interrupted. No human loss was caused directly by the lava flows, but the Icelandic population, at the time small, was hard hit. Between 1783 and 1786, mortality was in the range of 22% (about 10 500 people) due to a terrible famine, known in Icelandic history as the "famine of the fog", and epidemics that followed the eruption. The same year another eruption took place in the northern hemisphere, in Japan, that of Asama volcano, August 5, which accentuated the effects of the eruption of Laki.
In Scotland, 1783 was called "Ash Year". Volcanic dust and gases caused a bluish haze that spread over most of Europe and adjacent parts of Africa and Asia during the summer and autumn of 1783. Some say that the famines which followed all over Europe and more particularly in France were the ferment of riots, and an element to consider in the origin of the French Revolution in 1789.
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by sen-no-sen » 17/05/10, 20:06

Very interesting links dedelco!

The worst part is that all of its eruptions are not much compared to the potential of certain "Super Volcanoes" such as Yellow stones or Lake Toba, whose eruptions would have a cataclysmic impact on a global scale.
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by dedeleco » 17/05/10, 20:12

Kistinie writes:
the moon whose atmosphere is full of sodium and potassium on 5000Km thick

Siderante !!!!
The moon has an atmosphere 5000Km that is not an atmosphere, like all, we can see the craters of the moon under 5000Km atmospheric, invisible ??? Since 4 billions of years !!!

The thought of Kistinia alone seen its strength will change the climate and calm the volcano !!!!
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by dedeleco » 17/05/10, 21:34

The worst part is that all of its eruptions are not much compared to the potential of certain "Super Volcanoes" such as Yellow stones or Lake Toba, whose eruptions would have a cataclysmic impact on a global scale.

These remarkable links are thrilling with fear of these supervolcans, worse than anything, exploding volcanic champagne caps of diameter 100Km !!!
Geologists, volcanologists and biologists have done a great job on our past.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac_Toba
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A9or ... he_de_Toba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Toba
http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/bioas ... ction2.htm
There are about 73 000 years, the volcano which is now the caldera of Lake Toba in Sumatra, erupted with a force three thousand times larger than the eruption of Mount St. Helens in the US in 1980. According to Professor Ambrose, this led to a fall in average temperatures from about 3 to 3,5 ° C for several years. An overall fall from 3 to 3,5 ° C can lead to a fall of more than 15 ° C in temperate regions. This radical change in the environment is at the root of what has been called a population "bottleneck" among the different species of hominids that existed then ........
Genetic elements such as the study of mitochondria suggest that all humans living today, despite their apparent variety, are descended from a small group of a few thousand individuals living in East Africa [3]. Using the average rates of genetic mutation, some [precision needed] geneticists have estimated that this small group lived at a time coinciding with the Toba disaster.
The Würm glaciation begins at -70 000 around the supervolcan explosion (-75 000). This would tend to show that the volcano explosion was a major event triggering a climate change that ended only 11 000 years ago.
Contrary to this theory, recent archaeological discoveries in southern India at Jwalapuram seem to show that human activity does not seem to have been so disturbed during this period. (before and after a deposit of 2meters of ash at 3000Km of the volcano), 500 stone tools showing a continuity of traditional techniques have been discovered, which would tend to show that there was no strangulation of genetic evolution or extinction [4].

Thus this volcano, almost made men disappear but as some, more adapted, resistant, even smarter have survived, it has accelerated human evolution.
All major catastrophes have changed the earth and have made progress in the end !!
Without volcanoes we would not exist and the earth would be dead !!!
The great glaciations, worst of all, to the equator, there 2,2 and 0,6 billion years have raised the concentration of oxygen in 1 20%% then, with volcanoes and their CO2 for us out, and allow us to exist in the form of being multicellular !!!
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