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by moinsdewatt » 01/04/15, 20:19

dede2002 wrote:Absolutely : Cheesy:

This is the gray energy of uranium, to which we can add that of the concrete plants, among others.


I point out that for wind turbines it's not better.
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by Ahmed » 01/04/15, 21:21

That's why I did not mention it, although nuclear power plants probably require a lot more concrete than conventional plants.
In the case of wind turbines, we would have to compare the respective concrete / KWh ratios, but, indeed, it should not be famous.
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by dede2002 » 02/04/15, 08:00

It can be said that a wind turbine is much easier to dismantle. The calculation of gray energy also includes dismantling (or recycling).
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by moinsdewatt » 18/03/17, 13:53

Climate: CO2 releases decline in China and the United States

By Fabrice Nodé-Langlois The Figaro the 17 / 03 / 2017

Global greenhouse gas emissions from production are stable for the third year in a row. Better, they fell in 2016 in the United States and China. Partly thanks to shale gas.


This is good news for the planet. For the third consecutive year, emissions of CO2 (carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas) in the world have remained stable. Better still, greenhouse gas emissions are declining among the first two polluters, China and the United States. This finding of the International Energy Agency (IEA) focuses only on CO2 emissions related to energy production, so does not take into account transportation, industry or agriculture.

Gas displaces coal in the United States

It is in the United States that the decline in carbon emissions is most marked, notes the IEA. They dropped by 3%, which is 160 million tonnes less carbon sent to the atmosphere. This improvement, in terms of pollution, is partly explained by the increase in renewables in America but especially because of the continuing growth of shale gas. Gas is a fossil fuel, which emits CO2 when burned, but much less than coal. For the first time this year, electricity generated in gas-fired plants has outstripped that from coal-fired plants. US emissions have returned to their level of 1992 while since this year US GDP has increased by 80%. The decoupling between production of economic wealth and fossil energy production has indeed taken place.

New atomic reactors in China

In China, CO2 releases decreased by 1%. Two-thirds of the increase in electricity demand last year was met by renewables (mostly hydro and wind) and nuclear. No less than five atomic reactors entered service in China in 2016. The use of natural gas is increasing in China as well, but it still represents only 6% of the energy mix, against 25% on average in the world.

Globally, more than half of the year's additional consumption was met by renewables, with hydropower still accounting for the lion's share of clean energy. Six years after the Fukushima disaster, nuclear power is experiencing dynamic growth as its global capacity has grown better since 1993 with the launch of new reactors in China, Russia, the United States, South Korea, India and India. in Pakistan.

This stabilization observed while global economic growth has increased in 2016% 3,1 "signals a beginning of trend that leads to optimism even if it is too early to say that global emissions have reached their peak," said Fatih Birol , the director general of the IEA.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/2017 ... s-unis.php
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by sen-no-sen » 18/03/17, 16:21

moinsdewatt wrote:
This is good news for the planet. For the third consecutive year, emissions of CO2 (carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas) in the world have remained stable.


: Lol:
Good news for the planet! : Lol:
For a bit we would become optimistic! : roll:
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by Ahmed » 18/03/17, 19:11

Everything is fine! The worst continues! : Lol:
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by sen-no-sen » 18/03/17, 21:00

It should be known that our consumption of fossil product is down 2% * per year since 2006, and not because of the political goodwill but of the peak oil.
Physical limitations in the end make almost all the work, the rest is green washing.


* GDP is obviously correlated with energy, so it is useless to listen to politicians who sell us purchasing power and more ...
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by Ahmed » 18/03/17, 21:14

That the quantity of fossil energy declines is obvious, but a price at 45 € / barrel sign a cyclically weak demand: it is therefore, in my opinion, more a consequence than a cause. The structural functioning of a system that is progressively infected allows us to understand this relative sluggishness.
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by sen-no-sen » 18/03/17, 22:37

Ahmed wrote:That the quantity of fossil energy declines is obvious, but a price at 45 € / barrel sign a cyclically weak demand: it is therefore, in my opinion, more a consequence than a cause. The structural functioning of a system that is progressively infected allows us to understand this relative sluggishness.


We are in a period of "undulating" plateau, the slowdown in Chinese growth coupled with a flood of the market by Saudi Arabia to compete with unconventional US oil, the lifting of the embargo on Iran, etc. favors historically low prices.
This favors local growth (consumer countries) but also recession (producing countries).
The underlying trend is ecocidal because a barrel so low does not favor good initiatives by giving the illusion that the reserves are limitless.
There is a risk that in the coming years there will be a veritable "aftermath of drunkenness" because of the apathy of governments to turn away from fossils.
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by moinsdewatt » 19/03/17, 14:54

sen-no-sen wrote:It should be known that our consumption of fossil product is down 2% * per year since 2006, and not because of the political goodwill but of the peak oil.
Physical limitations in the end make almost all the work, the rest is green washing.
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Not at all. World oil consumption is still on the rise.

On the other hand, global coal consumption is down, because of China.
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