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by Obamot » 30/11/14, 10:54

It remains to be seen if they buy their own oil through the circuit of ...
petrodollars and therefore by "taxing" it among ... Image
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And as these are the most "dangerous"of the planet (matter of scale) they should measure the risk and send their own army home to"to wage war against local terrorism"(new paradigm to be created paranoid question), to be sure, but really sure and absolutely sure that the rest of the" free world "is no longer in" any "danger in terms of supply ... For that they could create a state coalition who would send divisions to their oilfield land (might even ask Palestine, Venezuela, or Russia and China to contribute, I'm sure they would wholeheartedly agree) If that happened, we would see all kinds of arrests both among southerners and northerners (lol)
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And besides, now that they do not need the oil of others anymore, perhaps they could simply make peace with the rest of the world ...!? By letting peoples freely choose the model of society they want!
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(and especially leaving the necessary time to achieve ...
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by Ahmed » 30/11/14, 13:02

Americans are not dangerous, since they are the "good guys"!
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by sen-no-sen » 30/11/14, 14:20

Obamot wrote:And besides, now that they do not need the oil of others anymore, perhaps they could simply make peace with the rest of the world ...!? By letting peoples freely choose the model of society they want!


The United States is no longer governed by humans, but by a set of anthropotechnical interactions.
This system has nothing to do with the demands of the people, since its logic tends to standardize the world to its image.
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by Obamot » 30/11/14, 16:07

anthropotechniques? That ... it is not a characteristic which is their own historically nor exclusive ideologically (because in particular founded on the "theoretical model", itself producing, and having produced a good part of the pathologies which one finds in the DSM >>>) but the whole of the West is inspired by it!

But you've found the right word Image it leaves you speechless ( : Cheesy: )

Ahmed: "good"in what (?) history is full of examples:

A) in poker or as hypocrites in their variable geometry interpretation of international law (?) Of the Holy Bible, etc.

B) in "backdoor" as arsonist firefighters of the planet since the East-West "detente" initiated after the failure of the abortive attack on the Bay of Pigs in Cuba;

C) then under McCarthyism as "bumhunter"and with the "Resolution of the Gulf of Tonquin" the "Witch Hunt" was open (later renamed "the axis of evil", sometimes against a background of this, sometimes of that ...);

D) in the "stop and go", with so many quarrels in Latin America, such as the putsch after the assassination of Salvador Allende in Chile (the first Marxist President in the West to come to power through elections under the rule of law, it could not pass ... Even seems that after fifty years, his autopsy would have "proved" that he would have committed suicide ... ahaha are good at it in Hollywood: they tell the truth but we no longer believe them, why?);

E) in "revival"again with Saddam Hussein and the" Coup "of the Gulf War (with Red Adair who will then extinguish the fires of the oil well fields in Kuwait), under the pretext of the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq (while in fact, no one knows it but Kuwait being located in a hole, pumped with impunity all the oil from Iraq which ended up ending up ... in Kuwait through communicating vessels, and so it was already a long time ago that Iraq was trying to negotiate a fair distribution of the oil manna, which was the cause of the war and not what the West announced by stirring up hatred against Saddam Hussein, with even appearances of his effigy in video games , "that it was absolutely necessary to knock out "!)

F) then with the "raiser" and the editing of any piece of Al Qu @ eda by the CIA to "prepare the ground" (?), Again with Saddam Hussein's alibi (to "finish the job") , then the game of poker continues;

G) in "royal flush"with September 11 and the birth of the copied / pasted paradigm of"War against terrorism", possible resurgence of"Cold War"to" create a new enemy "(initially barely a few small groups of bachibouzouk trained and financed by the CIA with millions of dollars (uh I mean paper) brought there in boxes of 1m3 (authentic) , to end with the international blockbuster that we know, with real deaths always, soon perhaps in Cannes to be nominated) (?);

H) then it bluff a max with the so-called "Arab Spring", new alibi after having killed the aging Turkish head of Ben L @ dden (the CI @ and henchmen surfing on the trend of young Arabs addicted to" social "networks to destabilize tribal / feudal societies (which did not ask for it). so many, so small and fragmented) so many potential targets that it considers "dangerous" for the axis and then place itself as the guarantor of a coalition that will fight the recalcitrant with missiles and political assassinations by interposed drones) (?)

I) all for all, we go all-in with the instrumentalization of Al Qu @ eda to fight B @ shar AL Hassad and his regime (?)

J) then we bring down the cards with D @ esh, and recreation of a coalition to go loot them ("friends" of yesterday, enemies of today) (?)

K) IS are nothing but old and new armed Sunnis after the looting of the largest munitions depot at the time of the Iraq war and looted with the complicity of Black Waters (suddenly completely melted and disappeared in nature and no one has spoken, as if by chance) ... We take the same hoof and we start again: Sunni as was the clan Saddam placed in his time by the ricains ... we are there again!(?)

L) as economic predators, and the main plunderer of the planet's mineral resources (at least historically) (?)

M) or "good" in what? in the schizophrenic tubing of the market economy?

N) in the dice loaded with "free trade" via the WTO (?)

O) or the "Fair Deal" proposals to enslave countries after having devastated them?

PQ) With the provocation of BHL and the CIA in Ukraine which is leading to the secession of this predominantly Soviet-populated state: we are not in the m ... in Europe if the NATO-USA succeeds his shot ... So "good"for whom (?) why (?) where (?) remains to say what is meant by that? ("Not much" replied Francis Blanche.)

PQ) But indeed, everything was said in your point of cynicism, which does not fail to react! If we add the empire of junk food after the dictatorships fought, it is sometimes not far from the trash of humanity. Alas.

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by sen-no-sen » 30/11/14, 16:42

Obamot wrote:...anthropotechniques? That ... it is not a characteristic which is their own historically nor exclusive ideologically (because in particular founded on the "theoretical model", itself producing, and having produced a good part of the pathologies which one finds in the DSM >>>) but the whole of the West is inspired by it!


While the United States did not invent the industry, but it has worn this one, and are ideological derivative (the technologism) at its climax.
And if the West and the rest of the world is inspired by it, it is the fact that the US is the champion in the field of energy dissipation, which has the physical consequence of changing the environment and ideas .
For this reason, despite a major historical vacuum, the US dominates the world culturally.
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by Ahmed » 30/11/14, 17:50

"Culturally" is perhaps an unfortunate word ... ideologically, would be more appropriate.

Formerly, as the note Plasmanu systems collapsed and others followed; today, there is only one system (anthropotechnical, therefore!) which has metastasized the entire planet (admittedly to varying degrees, but its "success" is however total on people's minds), when that collapsed in its turn, not only the damage will be universal, but there will be no fallback solution (in any case not reasonably discernible).
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by sen-no-sen » 30/11/14, 18:17

Ahmed wrote:"Culturally" is perhaps an unfortunate word ... ideologically, would be more appropriate.


Because for you lady gaga or Ronald Mcdonald it's not culture!
Inculte goes! : Mrgreen:

Indeed if we consider the culture from a strictly artistic point of view the use of this one can be considered as misplaced ... see insulting!

Now if we stick to a more scientific definition of culture - that is to say, information contained in the brain - the name remains correct.

Formerly, as Plasmanu notes, systems collapsed and others followed; today, there is only one system (anthropotechnical, therefore!) which has metastasized the whole planet (admittedly to varying degrees, but its "success" is however total on people's minds), when that collapsed in its turn, not only the damage will be universal, but there will be no fallback (in any case not reasonably discernible).


The universe, life and civilizations have constantly restructured themselves through cycles of booms and crashes, we hope (hope is alive!) That the crash that awaits us soon will see the emergence of an "age of reason "... :?:
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by Obamot » 30/11/14, 19:17

sen-no-sen wrote:
Ahmed wrote:"Culturally" is perhaps an unfortunate word ... ideologically, would be more appropriate.


Because for you lady gaga or Ronald Mcdonald it's not culture!
Inculte goes! : Mrgreen:

Indeed if we consider the culture from a strictly artistic point of view the use of this one can be considered as misplaced ... see insulting!

Now if we stick to a more scientific definition of culture - that is to say, information contained in the brain - the name remains correct.

If we stick to the definition of saying that everything that is cultural would be worthwhile for everything that is "in everyday practice».

Fast food restaurants are one of them (just look and remember the stalls of these in the sixties era, featured in films dedicated to rock & roll and the neon signs that represented them quite well: as we can still see in Granby: a Mecca for neon signs and signs of that time!

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Aaaaaaah the "beautiful period" of the consumer society full tubes and big American at 40 liters per hundred in full in the recklessness of post-war waste and liberalism brought to its paroxysm ...

With the typical example of the counter-culture of rock, which has become "culture" (and for some "cult", that's saying it all ...)

As long as there is an ideology behind it (but honestly, American society as a whole doesn't go that far, what's going on there, if we "dwarf" the facts and rather silly. It's wrong for the UN to lecture the Russians and the Arabs, while certain areas of America are sometimes on the verge of civil war (systematically armed national guard in the streets after the passage of hurricanes, as with Katherina, etc) and that the country feels very strongly about major racial discrimination problems: see what is happening in Fergusson, but similar examples are still happening today ...)

Now not all cultures (or all that is in one culture) would be good to take (and especially not those that are hegemonic or totalitarian, since one inevitably comes to the antithesis of specificity even melting pot: who is cultural diversity!)

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Formerly, as the note Plasmanu systems collapsed and others followed; today, there is only one system (anthropotechnical, therefore!) which has metastasized the entire planet (admittedly to varying degrees, but its "success" is however total on people's minds), when that collapsed in its turn, not only the damage will be universal, but there will be no fallback solution (in any case not reasonably discernible).


The universe, life and civilizations have been constantly restructured through cycles of booms and crashes, hope (hope is alive!) That the crash that awaits us soon will see the emergence of an "age of reason" ... :?:


Here we are! It's not wrong (and it will necessarily come in a certain way,). But on the other hand, we must not fall into the myth of "the wait of the big night", after which everything would become beautiful and wonderful (the utopia of the socialists and long before them the communists, even initially the propaganda of many fascists: hell is paved with good intentions.) There can only be one very gradual change, to make it last!

The weakness of our societies is precisely the fact of hollow cultures where the citizens have lost the sense of responsibility and end up confusing their personal will with the urban myths (hence my references to poker, in the post pleasantly corrected by Remundo...) that it is based on a great upheaval that would change the whole deal, I hardly believe it!

For society to change, it would be good for "man to change" and mature (yes, okay), so as to reach the necessary maturity which would allow him to reach and assume the equilibrium of a society. fairer ethical and respectful to which he aspires (the wisdom that you call of your wishes?). And above all with less constraints and subjugation (which means above all, oh great paradox: much, much more individual effort - freely and consciously made - to achieve this than in the current state!) Image

I say that, I say nothing, I am rather uneducated at the base : Mrgreen: but...
to base the future on a "culture of fear" ...> : Shock:
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by sen-no-sen » 30/11/14, 20:42

Obamot wrote:
Fast food restaurants are one of them (just look and remember the stalls of these in the sixties era, featured in films dedicated to rock & roll and the neon signs that represented them quite well: as we can still see in Granby: a Mecca for neon signs and signs of that time!


Very just!
"Fast food" is certainly one of the most representative examples of "the effect of the red queen"(see the subject on F. Roddier), which reminds us of the fact that a society by dissipating energy modifies its environment, which in return requires a rehabilitation of the said society ... rehabilitation which cannot be '' operate only by an additional expenditure of energy ... which leads to an increased modification of the environment to which it is necessary to readjust again and again, creating a feedback loop to the vertiginous acceleration ...

This has the effect of creating a rapid change in society, culturally this effect is characterized by a selection of organizations for the best adaptations which translates into economic jargon by the dominance of ultra-liberal model ... and on the side of the gastronomy (waiting for gastrotomy!) through the development of fast food.

This process ends up contaminating all areas of life and leading the affected nation into a race for expansion, resulting in conflicts over control over the natural resources of others, or interfering with to devour (shale gas) ...
We also understand why the defense industry is coming to create enemies, because that's the only way it can increase its development capacity.


If there is an ideology behind (...)


This is where I am coming from, not so much at the origin of an ideology but rather of an algorithm resulting from all the anthropotechnical interactions.
This largely explains why it is so difficult to change things and get your hands on a possible "master of the world" ...
There are no "super-rulers" as many conspirators would like to believe, no, just groups of individuals (agents of the system) working for the "system", and retro-acting with it.
This is a fundamental point to integrate.
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by plasmanu » 01/12/14, 08:15

sen-no-sen wrote:This is where I want to come
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This largely explains why it is so difficult to change things and get your hands on a possible "master of the world" ...
There are no "super-rulers" as many conspirators would like to believe, no, just groups of individuals (agents of the system) working for the "system", and retro-acting with it.
This is a fundamental point to integrate.


It's bright :P

And the confusion between American and Americans comes from there.
The small American people, the one who has not seen their purchasing power follow their growth: he is the good one.
Loving justice and freedom, orchestrated by the power of the media.

PS: it's the other son there :P
There would be an America from above and an America from below. This is the notion of people and state.
Is one representative of the other?
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