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by bidouille23 » 06/04/13, 12:01

Hello, what I see is that you take a month to answer, just to get your ad back ...

example for a floor insulation
-housing department
- the number of square meters to isolate
insulating quality N ° ACERMI ...


what I see is that it does not mean anything .... one insulation is not worth another, there is not only the thermal resistance in an insulator there is also its density and therefore the resulting phase shift ....

And second thing I see is that the bad liver is always worth the bad liver ....

And third observation is that you do not forget to put your ad in link with each message, and that you do not participate so to speak not at forum ... it's a troll limit ....

In short, blablablabalablabla
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by miou » 07/04/13, 14:59

Hello,

Sorry, but I'm not everyday on this forum to be able to read "your hacks" with so many orthograph errors and constantly out of the debate, moreover I believed that it was over as the moderator meant.
I do not know what fly stung you ... but let's be constructive.

1 / Regarding the insulation => see ACERMI n ° as indicated if you are a pro, you must understand ....
2 / Regarding: bad faith => can we have details.
3 / participate in the forum : difficult to participate in debates if hackers like you are constantly denigrating truths, and see the evil where it is not.
when you talk about yellow, you immediately look for the flaws of red ...

As my grandfather said "it is difficult to make a donkey go backwards when the donkey doesn't even want to go forward".

cordially

ECOinfos renewable energy :( no link, but a signature in all transparency)
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by bidouille23 » 08/04/13, 01:43

: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

it is the story of a donkey who did not want to go forward or backward but who took pleasure in turning another animal who took himself for a man and more for his master ...

: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

(answering you I play your game and I go back the subject, I will not answer any more, view the smallness of your person who transpires in your writing) ....

in 5 letters to describe you: TROLL :)
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by miou » 09/04/15, 22:23

Hello everybody

Just for information, I note that now in 2015 the energy premium (CEE) is much more well known.

I hope to have contributed a little to this despite the ignorance of a hacker ......

Sincerely
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by bidouille23 » 10/04/15, 13:28

Hello,

: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

much better known but still on the basis of redemption of Co2 ... A great swelling is what it is but, indeed to earn a little money when you have had the work done by a pro, it is a solution .. you also have to be well motivated because the files are easily sent back, something is often missing and it becomes half the fighter's journey (and the hacker has helped some people already to touch these "bonuses" ... mister miou who does not help in saying that these premiums are known ...)

Their existence is not a myth or a scam, it's just the why they are there, and the obligations attached to them, which make me grumble ... it's basically a nice excuse to be able to pollute by saying in the end "well you see we buy CO2 shares so we are kind, we take care of the environment ... and blah blah blah ..." Balance sheet pollution is still there and at the same level ....

And in terms of economy a bonus is only valid if set up and sale by a pro, suddenly self implementation or construction, will always be undeniably cheaper than an installation by a pro ...

A small concrete example with my house :) / / / /

Quote passed for a 300L solar thermal balloon kit with two high yield sensor, etc. etc. Complete kit so with break by a pro (a real one to whom I fully trust):

quote to 6500 euros ....


I just bought a complete kit (there are even the fittings, the heat transfer liquid, and the insulated stainless steel flexible pipes, in short complete kit of complete, electronic regulator, circulator, probe etc etc) ....

Nine still packaged, 94 panels yield% not announced the shipping company has my charge, 1 road day, wholesale 90 euros ...

+ the kit to 850 euros which gives us the small sum of 940 euros ....

I have to set up (but it's not a problem;)), and even if I did it mounted by a pro, I count 1200 wide range for installation, it would give roughly 2200 euros. ..

So let's do a little simple subtraction :) ...

6500- 2200 = 4300 euros in my pocket :) , she is beautiful the premium and I do not know any company that would give me as much as a bonus ...

Cqfd, if we can do the work, even then it is the royal solution, if not actually entered into a system that clears the polluters is also a solution ....

if it interests someone I can send the address where I bought the solar thermal kit there are some left one :) ;) ...

Little more, I have a friend who sold pac air_air, air_water, geothermal etc ....

he bought them wholesale 5000 and resold them 15000 to 20000, and it's the same for everything .... Among the suppliers the so-called national customers have discount rates up to 85% (another friend is sales manager at a supplier type france man;), it is the rates applied to véolia for example ...)

So I let you do small calculations when the margins practiced .... the small premium 300 euros make me gently laugh ....

In short for me the subject is closed everyone sees noon at his door and puts his money where he wants ...

The premiums are there and make work a certain type of trade and a certain economic logic, to everyone to make the balance ... but as much to ask for the premium when everything is already done, so much to do ....

it seems to me that Leclerc is the best placed elsewhere, but the most boring ....;)
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by elephant » 10/04/15, 13:41

Having sold PV panels in 2008, I strongly agree with you, Bidouille.

Now, after the problems that we know in Wallonia, the reseller's purchase price has become its selling price. (panels leave from China around 1 € / Wc)

As for the Belgian state, it was well done: it gave bonuses equivalent to VAT or almost, hoping to create work, so taxes.

The problem is that many rooftop guys came from the eastern countries, so no tax and contribution income.
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by miou » 10/04/15, 14:30

Hello,

Again an off topic hack, actually these bonuses energies are granted if we go through professionals (such as tax credits etc ... we can not have everything and most importantly, we are not all able to do the work itself, is not it BIDOUILLE),.
again, these bonuses are granted for example for insulation depending on the department where you live, m2 to isolate and not according to the value of the invoice (expensive or cheap) ...

Another delusion of hacking who finally admits to participate in helping a customer to touch the premium energy: yet not complicated:
Summary: in 6 clicks the request is made on a simulator and it is then necessary to send the invoice and the qualification of the installer ....

Sincerely
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by bidouille23 » 10/04/15, 15:06

: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: he's nice Meow he's nice ...

Not much evolved since the 1er message but nice .... :D , that's how it's life ... and it's definitely your job ... troll pro ... you earn your life like that (unfortunately I guess so)? do you sleep well with a clear conscience? :D there are packages of people like that ... that's one of the problems right now, too many services that are useless and not enough people who really do things ... all with a good layer of bad time, it makes us a good indigestible cake ...

: Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

And the one who wants can, the whole thing is to want to learn .... apart from the penguin and the old person without strength, I do not see who could not do its work, yes those who do not have it simply will ... we are free of our choices that's all ... we must assume after ... without complaining about the state of things around us ...


Come on Meow, I'll let you sleep in the sun ... and purred peacefully ...
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by elephant » 10/04/15, 23:36

I must say that the tone of Miou (11 posts) begins to annoy me. If the way in which our forums do not suit him, he is free to go and advertise elsewhere! : Evil:

If he does not want contradictions or diversions, that he creates his site without possibilities of answers.
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by miou » 14/04/15, 00:24

Ce forumour forum Or your forum I like it very well and I think I'm respectful of this forumhowever, I can not let the truths speak and I express my thoughts freely on the subject of energy bonuses, I think I am polite and I also listen to all the contradictions.

Regarding energy premiums: if certain officials of the forum see all the harm you say, they would delete all ads on this forum concerning these energy premiums.

elephant: I am open to all discussions always in the respect of the rules of the forum.
Bidouilles: as a reminder once again: do not confuse the price of the bill with the value of the energy premium ....

cordially
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