What should he do Obamot?

[Janic]

... we all do the same, in a more or less accentuated way ...
The sentence did not stop there, which gives it its full meaning: " But we all do the same, more or less accentuated, because it is also a way of reassuring oneself about one's choices, beliefs and culture. "

Really all ???
I happened to be wrong: I apologized ...

It's all in your Honor !

It happened to me to be peremptory: I tried to recognize that the nascent "dispute" could only be a difference of opinion ...

As far as ME is concerned, with Obamot, this is what happened… because of different experiences

I happened to see a sodomization of Drosophila coming: I left the thread ...

Just to "bugger" flies (you have to call a cat, a cat), the term sodomization is particularly deviated from its initial meaning!

So really all ???

All of course, but most of the time unconsciously: who is not trying to preserve his culture, his habits, his choices, his beliefs?

The sons on the lazy vegetable gardens live ...

And that's good ! It is already a serious questioning of current farming methods, but it has been going on for almost a century now and only makes its way little by little (generally when the opponents in principle end up disappearing) with the new generations especially when the Smear campaigns, in principle, are fading. The BIO and even more the PLUS that BIO does not begin to have a positive image until shortly after having been criticized and fought for a long time.

christophe

On your sons: did he try to attack it? I did not follow them enough in detail ...

Tackling it would be an exaggeration. His experience was different, more attached to a “scientific” vision * which is reflected by his frequent references to the WHO, to the medical establishment. Once clarified what differentiated us (but also our common points, even with some differences) the "conflict" subsided.
I am opposed to the vaccine obligations and he ended up rallying to them, even with reservations; I explained why the VGR or VGL was important both from an ecological point of view and health with references to the key, it ended, always with reservations, by rallying to it, etc… Given the little subject on which I intervene (bring back my science) the causes of conflict are all the more reduced.

* (common point with Izentrop by the way!)

[Christophe]

the term sodomization is particularly deviated from its initial meaning!

I also find! In the French language in the text, an en * ulé is actually rather an en * uleur ... never really understood this paradox
In English, no problem, these are homonyms lol

who does not seek to preserve his culture, his habits, his choices, his beliefs?

Preserve yes, but with a few openings anyway!

This is called open-mindedness and the ability to question oneself therefore ... to evolve and quite simply to learn more!

Too much openness leads to naivety, manipulation (by others) and imbecility ...
No open-mindedness leads to locking oneself in one's knowledge, not to evolving and ultimately to imbecility too ...

Then there is also mental inertia ... it is the ability not to question one's achievements ... (and I'm not talking about material achievements)

In short, a compromise is needed ... to not become a con!

Technical example of lack of openness: most heating engineers in 2016 still swear that a fuel oil flame must be yellow to be the best, it has been known for years that a blue fuel flame (poor regime. ..but not too much) is much more effective at all levels! And I'm almost certain that this false truth is still taught in heating training ... inertia ... inertia ...

https://www.econologie.com/telechargemen ... nt-manuel/
https://www.econologie.com/telechargemen ... e-buderus/

It's not Maloche who will contradict this: heating-insulation / amelioration-burner-fuel-reduction-nox-and-co-Blue Flame-t5172.html

[Janic]

Janic wrote:
the term sodomization is particularly deviated from its initial meaning!

I also find! In the French language in the text, an en * ulé is actually rather an en * uleur ... never really understood this paradox
In English, no problem, these are homonyms lol

we still deviate, but precision is necessary. In the biblical text from which this expression is taken (very badly taken elsewhere) it is not a question of homosexuality whoever is penetrating or penetrated. It is (I have already spoken about it) a collective rape, (a turning point is said at present) which has nothing to do with a consensual sexual relationship.
End of HS

[Christophe]

Ah thank you for this biblico-sexual lesson

This does not explain the inversion of meaning of the French language

The victim * is the victim and not the executioner ...

ps: sodomy is not exclusive to male homosexuality ... but I don't teach you anything ...

[Did67]

A) Crazy ??? To this extend??

This is a good example of how you can "slip" in a quick post, without wanting to ...

Let's say, to be precise, that faced with people who are passionate about my way of doing things, but coming mainly from a "classic", conventional approach, therefore more "average French" than forumers used to econology - I know, average French, that doesn't mean anything, but you imagine looking for a greener way to garden, I have often wondered what they would think of me if they fell, following my advice, on "furious" sons (like those who animated Obamot - and a few others) ...

The people who come to see me are not, for the most part, ahmed, janic, izentrop, etc ... used to these "debates of ideas".

So my fear was, that frightened by the sons in question, they would not, suddenly, reject my ideas ???

For those who, like Janic, think that today the defense of such approaches is relatively self-evident, take a look at this thread on Futura, where you will find me (treated as I don’t know what is little rewarding):

http://forums.futura-sciences.com/jardi ... ience.html

(read Pellia's reviews of me in other threads too)

[Christophe]

Le forum econology has historically been superior to that of FS in terms of open-mindedness, which is what I wanted from the start: to remain open to everything and everyone! Good with flats anyway: the nonsense, perpetual movements and co were quickly dismantled!

You would probably never have developed your technique on FS because immediately broke and demotivated by "those who know"! (I guess without even clicking on the FS link) In this sense the forums econology are more interesting than those of FS in terms of innovation and new ideas.

But FS has had the means of development that we have never had here: FS has become one of the first FR sites on the audience today ... econology is in suvie mode ... it is harder to walk there Away from the thinking system!

But it was also this openness that led to abuse, trollism ... we were probably a little too tolerant ... well, I especially ...

Again moderation is a story of compromise as I said above ... and when there is obvious will to harm it is even more delicate ... because trolls are more deceitful and intelligent ...

[Capt_Maloche]

What I like about the site:

1) TP (practical work) of the members
2) scientific news and new products

[Christophe]

+1

[The shadow]

Hello everyone, whatever their ranks and functions
I just received an email with a link that makes the buzz on Obamot , I have no ready-made answer but I understand that some have left the forum not because of these messages but surely for many other reasons (it is hard to look elsewhere) it is my personal analysis
I'm not going to insult you by establishing a list> that's not my point and many subjects are sharp and the answers consistent but not all ...
My principle is to never go in the direction of the current and I would not be the one who will ask for the banishment of a member, it is a rule which I hold deeply, and that since my scabrous beginnings on the canvas, Voila for my explanation and reading of the alleged facts A> Obamot
Thank you for this opportunity to respond.
Maybe soon

[Did67]

You would probably never have developed your technique on FS because immediately broke and demotivated by "those who know"! (I guess without even clicking on the FS link) In this sense the forums econology are more interesting than those of FS in terms of innovation and new ideas.

Let's just be precise enough: I would have developed my technique without anyone! I started before talking about it.

But I owe important contributions to economics: phil53 for the Sillon'net, some very relevant reflections from Ahmed, Janic and a few others; questions of wonder of people - I think of Julienmos, and others ... - who forced me to specify my thought.

I owe some forumers to have been encouraged to write the book ... which is still on standby ... OR to make videos. I was very far from thinking that what I was doing had an interest for others ...

I was going to forget Christohe, in my lists, so obvious to me ...

Phil53 uploaded my first video, which undoubtedly started a movement which, today, has led to 13 videos, more than 6 hours of viewing ... and a notoriety that I find rampant. And that I must now manage if I do not want to get into a "galley"!

So econology helped me to better formulate my vision of things, to make myself known, encouraged me ... It's a lot. It's huge.

Currently, the "dissemination" (new interested) is mainly done via Youtube ... I try to bring those who ask questions on Youtube to econology, Youtube is not made to discuss ...

This is the reason why I have a weakness for ecology, which I do not have for FS - where I just try to stay present and defend my ideas, seize an opportunity d 'open your eyes to those whose eyelids are not yet too glued!

This is the reason why I continue here, even if sometimes, as said above, compared to my perception of people interested in what I am developing, I have been worried.

One of the basics of communication is that there is not too much "noise". At the risk of being inaudible.

However, certain furious debates, even if they are respectable, on too many different subjects, can constitute "noise" for people who are not interested in it ... A fortiori when one is dealing with "substantive arguments" of recreation ", where it is no longer the courteous debate of ideas that takes precedence, but the unbridled battle of egos.

Again, this is an opinion. Personal. I am aware of this, in relation to my own objective: to disseminate the idea of ​​the PP to as many people as possible. Not necessarily "convert". Just expose to another reflection, another vision, another "way of seeing" ... Do not leave people locked in the various fashions of the moment like "permaculture", "lasagna", etc ... And they choose. .. And answer multiple questions (I have a lot of questions by email; I always try to refer to econology, without forcing anyone, so that the questions / answers benefit the greatest number; therefore yes, when there is too much of "noise", that sometimes makes you doubt).

So my goal may be contradictory with a forum of which the majority of forumthey want to fight loud ? What I would respect. Hence my remark that the answer to the question posed in title depends ... on objectives!

But I'm still here, despite a few fleeting doubts (it was not a "permanent state" after all!) Out of gratitude for all that. Out of friendship for those I have cited (and a few forgotten) ...