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by zorglub » 06/06/10, 21:00

say that there are some who do km, .me, I pedal without moving a place but after an hour of home trainer, I have plenty of C--

it's already not bad ... when the pump can no longer follow
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by hic » 06/06/10, 22:45

zorglub wrote:say that there are some who do km, .me, I pedal without moving a place but after an hour of home trainer, I have plenty of C--

it's already not bad ... when the pump can no longer follow


Hi zorglub

Typically a sedentary,
who simultaneously does too much and not enough : Mrgreen:


Is it econobiological good?

The greatest wealth of the econobiologist It is him!

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"at your age you should have a hard-on 10 times a day")
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by I Citro » 06/06/10, 22:52

Christophe wrote:We are not born obese ... we become obese ... : Idea:
No, we are not born obese ... But for many children, it is not their fault if they become obese. :|
The first responsible are their parents, furiously helped by the society in which we live and which considers us above all as cash cattle ...

Then our rhythms of life become assets or handicaps. A physical worker will have an easier time spending the calories that he consumes than a "seated" worker (office worker or driver) ... Stress, lack of free time, are additional elements.

Yes, the physical condition of a 40 year old individual who has not practiced sport for 20 years is not at the same level. If I magnify the line by telling that my 7-year-old daughter goes faster than me on a bicycle, it is to highlight our lost relationship to physical effort. I'm not screwed, the pump is fine, but the whole machine lacks training ... I took note and try to correct the situation by going to the gym regularly. Switching from the car to the electric scooter is also a way of getting around much less "relaxed" ...

All this taking into account many personal or family requirements ... I hope in a few years to swap the scooter for the assisted bike, as soon as my children are a little more autonomous ... But I do not see the point to remove assistance one day on the pretext that my physical condition will be sufficient ...
For the same reasons as those stated by Dirk Pitt Image
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by hic » 06/06/10, 23:34

citro wrote:
Christophe wrote:We are not born obese ... we become obese ... : Idea:
No, we are not born obese ... But for many children, it is not their fault if they become obese. :|
The first responsible are their parents, furiously helped by the society in which we live and which considers us above all as cash cattle ...

Then our rhythms of life become assets or handicaps. A physical worker will have an easier time spending the calories that he consumes than a "seated" worker (office worker or driver) ... Stress, lack of free time, are additional elements.

Yes, the physical condition of a 40 year old individual who has not practiced sport for 20 years is not at the same level. If I magnify the line by telling that my 7-year-old daughter goes faster than me on a bicycle, it is to highlight our lost relationship to physical effort. I'm not screwed, the pump is fine, but the whole machine lacks training ... I took note and try to correct the situation by going to the gym regularly. Switching from the car to the electric scooter is also a way of getting around much less "relaxed" ...

All this taking into account many personal or family requirements ... I hope in a few years to swap the scooter for the assisted bike, as soon as my children are a little more autonomous ... But I do not see the point to remove assistance one day on the pretext that my physical condition will be sufficient ...
For the same reasons as those stated by Dirk Pitt Image


hi Christophe
A sedentary person is by definition unfit for physical activity,
he does nothing and it tires him : Mrgreen:

it seems that man is biologically programmed to do 70Km per week,
The "Club Vosgien" recommends half of them.

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by I Citro » 06/06/10, 23:44

Hic wrote:...
it seems that man is biologically programmed to do 70Km per week,
The "Club Vosgien" recommends half of them.
70Km by bike or on foot. :?:
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by dedeleco » 07/06/10, 00:14

70Km by bike or on foot.

Kif, kif, it's only 10Km per day or 5Km one way then return or 2 hours of journey per day on foot by walking back and forth, instead of car and 30 min by bike, not much !!
Less than the number of km, the important thing is the intensity of the effort !!
Running or cycling with force a vertical drop of 200m (either the 2nd floor of the Eiffel Tower or 10 times a 7-story building) in 15 to 20 minutes is also good every day without going through a gym !!
You gain 10 years of age like this !!!!
Long-Term Physical Activity Has an Anti-Aging Effect at the Cellular Level

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 161806.htm

I have taken note of this and am trying to correct the situation by going to the gym regularly. Switching from the car to the electric scooter is also a way of getting around much less "relaxed" ...

All this taking into account many personal or family requirements ... I hope in a few years to swap the scooter for the assisted bike, as soon as my children are a little more autonomous ... But I do not see the point to remove assistance one day on the pretext that my physical condition will be sufficient ...

I am flabbergasted by these statements, because for me cycling, assisted equal kif kif physical condition close to zero with refusal to leave !!
Not being screwed up a long 10% hill at a brisk pace without getting a flat tire is the best proof of zero physical condition, in my opinion !!!
And a gym is useless, you just need to train every day on this coast at almost maximum (without killing yourself) to improve performance and form !!
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by zorglub » 07/06/10, 11:10

Typically a sedentary,
who simultaneously does too much and not enough


sedentary? at 70 banks, in addition to the daily work (garden, and all the rest) twice a week of the bike + more than forty push-ups + forty abdominals, I would like it to last especially after a heart attack but that's enough for me. high mountain, ski touring; cross-country skiing, climbing, and cycling up to 150 terminals)
I spare the beast ..........
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by Aumicron » 07/06/10, 11:19

Don't forget Winston Churchill's answer when asked about the secret of his longevity:
NO SPORTS
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by I Citro » 07/06/10, 13:35

dedeleco wrote:I am flabbergasted by these statements, because for me cycling, assisted equal kif kif physical condition close to zero with refusal to leave !!
Not being screwed up a long 10% hill at a brisk pace without getting a flat tire is the best proof of zero physical condition, in my opinion !!!
And a gym is useless, you just need to train every day on this coast at almost maximum (without killing yourself) to improve performance and form !!
Have you ever tried an electric bicycle. :?: :?
We understand your speech, but you refuse to hear ours ...

Not everyone can afford to come to work swimming, and do not have the necessary sanitary facilities to shower and change before starting work. Not everyone is in sufficient physical condition to start commuting without electric assistance, etc.

Any physical training must be PROGRESSIVE.
Finally, it can happen to be sick or to have a loss of form, the VAE then makes it possible to continue to roll there or the "pure and hard" athlete will put the bike back on to take his car ...
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by dedeleco » 07/06/10, 14:34

Have you ever tried an electric bike

Yes, by catching up and overtaking uphill, sluggish electric bikes !!! (as well as old smelly Solex bikes !!)
Really, by maintaining the form, the electric bicycle is useless, even harmful for the physical form !!

Not everyone can afford to come to work swimming, and do not have the necessary sanitary facilities to shower and change before starting work. Not everyone is in sufficient physical condition to start commuting without electric assistance, etc.

Any physical training must be progressive.
Finally, it can happen to be sick or to have a loss of form, the VAE then makes it possible to continue to roll there or the "pure and hard" athlete will put the bike back on to take his car ...

The VAE is for without physical form and inefficient !!
Going up 200m of vertical drop, by bike or by running in steep paths without a car, (even stairs) takes me 20 minutes max (with my wife who darkens much less) and can be done in the evening, at night, (I do it). often worked at night in winter), after or before work. What counts is the intensity of the effort, 15 minutes, on foot, running uphill, by bike, regularity, every day, and not to do it has no excuse, apart from the lack of willpower to overcome the difficulty of the beginning.
Due to lack of form, headache, the onset of a cold, this effort stimulates blood circulation, the onset of oxygen and therefore also the immune system !! So I see the disappearance of the headache, reduction of the common cold and a better shape afterwards!
Cyclists have more osteoporosis than joggers, so you have to do both, with jerks on the bones when going up and down steep slopes off marked trails !!!
Running and jumping downhill is the best medicine with the sun against osteoporosis, and improves the brain too (balance) !!
zorglub quote:
I spare the beast ..........

is right, therefore duration of the effort not excessive, (no marathon too long, wearing out the joints), intense effort in uphill (15 minutes at 80%) but not too tiring, nor more than 220 less age for the heart, but especially regular training every day, progressive, to improve one's abilities and to be better than young people 30 years younger, without wearing too much !!
It is crucial to start this young, in prevention of all diseases aggravated by lack of physical form, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, fractured femur, falls, osteoporosis, aging of the brain, etc.
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