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[Christophe]

a) Since 10 days there is actually 1 ad more that appears at the bottom or right of forums... but I hadn't noticed that it could block the use of forums otherwise I would have deleted it fissa ...

Brief since it raises concerns about some configs, I just delete it ...

b) the height of the donations you gave me often criticized talk of financial problems of the site in public ... so a bit contradictory as demand right?

In short ok, let's scale test: from 5 € / month you have all the publicity disappear (see how c?))

If members give 25 5 € per month, it already will cover accommodation costs (89 € for the database server + 2 or 3 little options)

5 € / month I think it's reasonable enough amount ...

For the moment the operation is not automated (it will be if there is significant demand ...) after making your donation (https://www.econologie.com/aider-econolo ... re-un-don/), contact me in PM indicating your donation and I will add you to the "Donor members" group see c)

c) I just did a panel to donor members: Premium Members.

For them no more advertising appears. I just add Flytox, Delnoram Remundo and who had already made some donations last year ... just to get feedback on their side ...

I just tested and it seems to work well (and it speeds up a little navigation: it is faster than a adblock ...)

Here...

ps: for the amount we can discuss and refine thereafter (the goal being the sustainability of the site), a test for it seems to me ...

[Did67]

I confirm that on my second laptop, I can no longer consult econology because the "cross" to close the ad is hidden under the top banner. Suddenly, I no longer have access to the pictogram (bell, private messages) ... On it, the cross to close is half displayed and I get away with it ...

I also had several response "boxes" which were crashed and replaced by an intrusive ad ...

[Did67]

5 € / month I think it's reasonable enough amount ...

For the moment the operation is not automated (it will be if there is significant demand ...) after making your donation (https://www.econologie.com/aider-econolo ... re-un-don/), contact me in PM indicating your donation and I will add you to the "Donor members" group see c)

Yes. The price of a pack of cigarettes! Even when you've never smoked, it's still a "clue"!

I left to do ...

[Christophe]

Didi thank you for the test!

I confirm that on my second laptop, I can no longer consult econology because the "cross" to close the ad is hidden under the top banner. Suddenly, I no longer have access to the pictogram (bell, private messages) ... On it, the cross to close is half displayed and I get away with it ...

I also had several response "boxes" which were crashed and replaced by an intrusive ad ...

But what ad are you talking about? The banner that was attached to the right of the screen? It was supposed to stay "in the middle" vertically ... but logically, for a few hours there is nothing! I cleaned everything!

[Did67]

Didi thank you for the test!

I confirm that on my second laptop, I can no longer consult econology because the "cross" to close the ad is hidden under the top banner. Suddenly, I no longer have access to the pictogram (bell, private messages) ... On it, the cross to close is half displayed and I get away with it ...

I also had several response "boxes" which were crashed and replaced by an intrusive ad ...

But what ad are you talking about? The banner that was attached to the right of the screen? It was supposed to stay "in the middle" vertically ... but logically, for a few hours there is nothing! I cleaned everything!

Indeed, at the moment there is nothing.

There were, at home

- a vertical banner on the right, based on cookies (I had offers of computer after doing a search), all the way up, whose closing cross was sometimes hidden, according to the screen, under the banner of top of forum. Impossible to make disappear then ...

- And I had an inlay in the middle of the left screen, easy to shut

- and so I had the reply box which was regularly "crashed": the entire screen was replaced by an intrusive ad ...

[Christophe]

There were, at home

- a vertical banner on the right, based on cookies (I had offers of computer after doing a search), all the way up, whose closing cross was sometimes hidden, according to the screen, under the banner of top of forum. Impossible to make disappear then ...

- And I had an inlay in the middle of the left screen, easy to shut

- and so I had the reply box which was regularly "crashed": the entire screen was replaced by an intrusive ad ...

- ok I see

- There I see it? probably a variant (geographic location?) of 1er item?

- There I see as it was during some tests (it was supposed to be embedded videos, but it did not work) so normally it was not supposed to last more than a few hours? And it's been days that it is disabled ... I believe Caching ???

ps: for any donation of € 100 or more (single or combined), your account will be Premium to life ...

[Did67]

There were, at home

- a vertical banner on the right, based on cookies (I had offers of computer after doing a search), all the way up, whose closing cross was sometimes hidden, according to the screen, under the banner of top of forum. Impossible to make disappear then ...

- And I had an inlay in the middle of the left screen, easy to shut

- and so I had the reply box which was regularly "crashed": the entire screen was replaced by an intrusive ad ...

- ok I see

- There I see it? probably a variant (geographic location?) of 1er item?

- There I see as it was during some tests (it was supposed to be embedded videos, but it did not work) so normally it was not supposed to last more than a few hours? And it's been days that it is disabled ... I believe Caching ???

ps: for any donation of € 100 or more (single or combined), your account will be Premium to life ...

On the left, it was a kind of small box, with rather non-targeted campaigns (not according to my recent activity); rather like "national campaigns" ... I admit that I no longer remember, I was paying so much attention!

The one-time donation, you don't shoot yourself in the foot ???? You will have a cash income in the very short term ... But in the long term, who will then ensure sustainability ... OR is it "guaranteed for life" given by companies which disappear 3 weeks later?

[chatelot16]

I feel that no one dared complain about the pub ... it took that I brought back so that others also speak.

there was a vertical line that is off the page econology when you have a big screen, but that goes over the page when you have a small screen or a big zoom, and the cross to close not aparrait ! ... To bring up the cross must zoom out, even if everything becomes too small and illegible but it makes visible the cross to turn off this pub ... and then return to normal zoom

the appearance of this cross is bizare, it is not enough that the zoom leaves enough room, it takes a lot more to it

I'll make a donation, not seeming to ask ever and do nothing, but I insist: donate not for not having pub myself: it is for the visitors do not have to either pub, not to push the new participant

if I participate in a forum it is not to have the answers only of a small group, it is to have the answers as diverse as possible ... that all the competent person who pass can participate, not push back by the bad public

there is no need to remove all advertising: it is enough that it is correctly formatted, on the same level as the forum , without hiding anything, that it has a fixed format not to blow the screen while we read, whether at the beginning or at the end but not inserted between the messages ... we ended up not knowing anymore or is the end of a page ... is there yet another answer under this ad?

when you search a message in a rather long subject is infernal: with these ads that appear gradually, it is difficult to read all the messages without missing one because the screen jumps all the time

and more still missing a number of messages to display ... it could serve ... when you have finished reading the 125, 126 can seek ... and not be disturbed by a jump of the screen

current solution to read about long ... all copy and read offline

thanks to some gift eviteron the worries for the future, did a test: suprime all the odd pub for everyone and leaves only a good layout to not interfere reading, and see the effect on the number of visit and number Registered since: I am sure that the effect will be fast

and it will go up can be something else: too much advertising kills the pub ... less pub will do more participant and finally the long more income

[Christophe]

The one-time donation, you don't shoot yourself in the foot ???? You will have a cash income in the very short term ... But in the long term, who will then ensure sustainability ... OR is it "guaranteed for life" given by companies which disappear 3 weeks later?

I thought ... here's how I see it:

a) 100 € this corresponds to 20 months to 5 € ... this is a fairly long equivalent period (longer than the average life of participation on a forum)

b) Nothing prevents the generous donors (who have thus accumulated € 100) to give even later ...

c) advertising revenue will continue to exist for visitors and non premium members

d) If 100 100% of the members gave € then the sustainability of the site would be provided for at least 1000 years ...

e) If I wanted to disappear qu'Econologie you think I would do this? It is precisely just the opposite ...

[Christophe]

I'll make a donation, not seeming to ask ever and do nothing, but I insist: donate not for not having pub myself: it is for the visitors do not have to either pub, not to push the new participant

Thank you received and I put your account into Premium ...

Donations (if they are regular) will reduce advertising pressure on the rest of the forum...
In your case, since you are Premium, you have to disconnect to see the difference ...

if I participate in a forum it is not to have the answers only of a small group, it is to have the answers as diverse as possible ... that all the competent person who pass can participate, not push back by the bad public

Yes I agree, I refer you to this topic there are over 3 years: pub / re-boostons-lesforums-shared-topics-convivialite-t12505.html

When I was already feeling the participation fall ...

there is no need to remove all advertising: it is enough that it is correctly formatted, on the same level as the forum , without hiding anything, that it has a fixed format not to blow the screen while we read, whether at the beginning or at the end but not inserted between the messages ... we ended up not knowing anymore or is the end of a page ... is there yet another answer under this ad?

That's what I've re-done since yesterday sorry for the abuse by an advertiser I was testing ...

thanks to some gift eviteron the worries for the future, did a test: suprime all the odd pub for everyone and leaves only a good layout to not interfere reading, and see the effect on the number of visit and number Registered since: I am sure that the effect will be fast

and it will go up can be something else: too much advertising kills the pub ... less pub will do more participant and finally the long more income

Yes ok test this ...