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by toto65 » 16/11/07, 20:30

What is no longer the case ... deceives me? So where can you maintain such measures?

Absolutely, nothing justifies it. It's just that those who came home with this legitimate compensation can go with it.
It's just a matter of implementation in my opinion.

You're right it's true that they are taxed:
If amount of transfers: <€ 20.000 No tax
> € 20.000 your capital gains are taxed at 27%
I would clarify by saying: all stock market capital gains.

I wanted to quote you NLC, in saying:
let nothing prevent it from becoming one. And to change things.

But I agree my quote was not appropriate. Mea culpa.
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by Christophe » 16/11/07, 20:31

nlc wrote:The problem is that the better it goes, the more people want more purchasing power while working less. Surely the consumer society who wants that?


Well, there is only one method to get there when you don't want to work: exploit others ...Exploitation is not necessarily that carried out by the big bad bosses capitalists I would say no more ...

ps: what does associate boss mean?
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by Christophe » 16/11/07, 20:33

toto65 wrote:You're right it's true that they are taxed:
If amount of transfers: <€ 20.000 No tax
> € 20.000 your capital gains are taxed at 27%
I would clarify by saying: all stock market capital gains.


Uh, are you sure about these numbers? 20 seems huge to me ...
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by nlc » 16/11/07, 20:36

Christophe wrote:
nlc wrote:The problem is that the better it goes, the more people want more purchasing power while working less. Surely the consumer society who wants that?


Well, there is only one method to get there when you don't want to work: exploit others ...Exploitation is not necessarily that carried out by the big bad bosses capitalists I would say no more ...

If precisely, precise, you have said too much or not enough.

Christophe wrote:ps: what does associate boss mean?

Well, we are 2 founding partners
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by toto65 » 16/11/07, 20:36

Not enough to apparently:
The Senate Finance Committee yesterday voted on an amendment to raise the tax threshold for capital gains. This would drop from € 20.000 to € 25.000. The level of taxation of capital gains on transferable securities should also increase from 16% to 18% (plus 11% social security contributions), in return for the abolition of the stock market tax. The project will be examined by the National Assembly next week.
: Shock:
http://www.investir.fr/cours-actions-co ... euros.html
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by toto65 » 16/11/07, 21:11

The subject drifts enormously, I allow myself one more remark.
when I see all those shots in the flank

I find your remark interesting.
flanked: farmer who receives bonuses for not working?
shareholder who fools nothing under the pretext of having money which transfers competent employees to employ labor in a totalitarian country?
Rmiste from whom we buy social peace?
guy who has an executive salary with scheming and company? (it even has a name: gray economy).

Do not see any aggression in my words, I wanted to qualify.
I find you have the courage to be a business leader. I take my hat off to you, and I wish you success.
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by Christophe » 16/11/07, 21:16

toto65 wrote:Not enough to apparently:
The Senate Finance Committee yesterday voted on an amendment to raise the tax threshold for capital gains. This would drop from € 20.000 to € 25.000. The level of taxation of capital gains on transferable securities should also increase from 16% to 18% (plus 11% social security contributions), in return for the abolition of the stock market tax. The project will be examined by the National Assembly next week.
: Shock:
http://www.investir.fr/cours-actions-co ... euros.html


I didn't know it was so high ... I'm on my ass ... I thought that every € won in the stock market was heavily taxed! :|
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by Christophe » 16/11/07, 21:23

nlc wrote:If precisely, precise, you have said too much or not enough.


I think you understood me very well: by not wanting to go back on social gains, it is necessary that others "pay" ... it is also a form of exploitation ... and in the event of an economic crisis (as has been the case for years) it is quite unbearable for whom are not part of these privileged categories ...

Be careful with this remark, I do not aim at all for social minima that do not cost strictly NOTHING to governments because a large majority of social minima are quickly reinjected into the economic "circuit".

I am targeting people who have become accustomed to a certain standard of living and who believe that this standard of living is due to them for life... sorry but in a context of crisis this is not possible ... but all this will stop "naturally" with the end of cheap energy ...

nlc wrote:Well, we are 2 founding partners


Ah but I didn't know, so welcome to the young entrepreneurs club ... and you don't want to tell us more about your activity? It could do you maybe a little publicity right? You may have already presented it one day on the forums but I can't follow everything ...
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by nlc » 16/11/07, 22:21

Christophe wrote:
nlc wrote:If precisely, precise, you have said too much or not enough.


I think you understood me very well: by not wanting to go back on social gains, it is necessary that others "pay" ... it is also a form of exploitation ... and in the event of an economic crisis (as has been the case for years) it is quite unbearable for whom are not part of these privileged categories ...


No really I didn't see what you wanted to talk about. And I 100% agree.

Christophe wrote:
nlc wrote:Well, we are 2 founding partners


Ah but I didn't know, so welcome to the young entrepreneurs club ... and you don't want to tell us more about your activity? It could do you maybe a little publicity right? You may have already presented it one day on the forums but I can't follow everything ...


It's totally irrelevant, but in short: electronic design.
And at the moment among other projects in progress I have several which revolve around the electric displacement.
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by Christophe » 16/11/07, 22:31

Electronic design, with Asian and Indian competition I understand that you have to do 16h days to stay out of the water ... :?

If you think that some of your products could be offered on our shop, contact me in MP ... you never know?
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