Should we stop the massacre? [by lejustemilieu]

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by edfed » 09/04/10, 00:33

the narcissistic pervert, we have one who is president.
and a whole bunch behind who dream of becoming one ....
Mussollini also was one.
Poutine is one, Margerie (TOTAL) too.
the Rothschilds are from father to son, Napoleon too was one, maozetong too, bush, he is not bad either. and here I speak only of the best known.
because there are others, for example, the little chef there, who puts the pressure on everyone, or the secretary who spends his time on the phone and sends shit the waiting gents, the notables of the city .. there is so much in truth.


a narcissistic pervert, when he comes to power, he is able to put everyone in misery to get to drink champagne at breakfast in a saccuzzi on a yatch.

that's what it is, a man who thinks that he (narcissist) and will harm others to achieve his (evil) ends.

and at this moment the narcissistic perverts are legion, listened to and respected.

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proposition: simple in theory, not simple in practice

what I propose is to get rid of them (the narcissistic perverts), you will see afterwards, it will just be necessary to convince the "well-meaning" (in general sheep) that it is good for everyone. world. and everything will be in order.

why could not a society rebuild itself when it loses all these manipulators? why is that?
I think that on the contrary, after a short period when everyone would be a little lost, things would return to order, everyone will return to his place, do what he likes to do to make society work.
do not worry, there are always people who like to do the housework and will do it with joy, there are people who like to pick up trash to make streets clean, that's what I call the right to initiative found. everyone doing what he wants because he thinks it's good for him, and the others.

everyone would take the place he wants to occupy in society.
there is something for everyone, not everyone likes to spend their time behind a desk sorting through papers. Do not believe, the "intellectual" trades are not the only goal of everyone.
There are plenty of people willing to do a lot of things, you have to give them freedom, and a retribution.
in an equitable system, with a wise man at the controls, the retributions would be obligatorily correct.

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conclusion: the need for a CHEF, because we are torp beast to shut up and listen to others.

but what will this sage be?

I have a little penchant for coluche, but he's dead ... we have to find another one. which corresponds to the profile "wise, fair, honest, intelligent, cultivated, experienced and attentive".

I want to be, but will have to wait until I'm still maturing, I still have 30 years to take in the head to be able. but in the meantime, who will do it? one of you?
the middle? yeah why not "lejustemilieu", I don't know him much, but he seems to me to be quite wise and impartial, and above all realistic.

this is what I call the true vote, spontaneously choosing the one who represents us. freedom in short. without influence, without campaigns or general lobotomy.
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by Obamot » 09/04/10, 00:56

This time the speech is coherent, it m'va (it means that I understood the message). : Mrgreen:

I was wrongly expecting a less relevant explanation. She was. The only problem is that to flush out a PN or a sadistic pervert (they are both in general), it takes most of the time, to have been the victim (I saw that pretty closely ... ) for the recognizers. Alas those who have suffered the consequences come out most often completely destroyed and no longer have the heart to go back.

Moreover, society punishes severely those who touch a hair of these executioners, because there it would become penal ... will know why? As for the victims they are often treated as guilty ... In short, it is well observed, but it is not a small matter ... The practices of these twisted are of such a skill that they are often incoinçables. And the lawyers do not take care of the victims (the bottom of the story is that their crimes are not classified as criminal offenses ... the whole problem is there) these, completely clueless send their "Clients" in the PSY who in turn are based on "models" difficult to apply to particular cases which ultimately iatrogenic and destroys a little more victims by the simple fact that they are not recognized as that such ... (it changes, but slowly ...)
Just remember the drama of Outreau see from Kampusch for the most serious and recent cases. But this is unfortunately also in everyday life. Suffice it to observe the haemorrhage of suicides in large groups such as France Telecom, Renault, Peugot even at the United Nations ... these cases are unfortunately not rare ...

The fact is that the organization of the world in Western countries is based on a model of competition ... so predation. It is therefore very difficult for those who make the laws to find parries that are sufficiently dissuasive for these dark offenders. What is required is to obstruct the accomplishment and to hinder their action, wherever possible. It is also important to be wary of all situations in which reactive armor is observed and to report it immediately to the higher hierarchical level (if it is judged in good faith).
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by Flytox » 09/04/10, 08:39

Bucheron I miss you .... : roll: : Mrgreen:
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by Obamot » 09/04/10, 11:31

This is obviously not to put everyone in the same basket Edfed .. (I specify)

Go Flytox, get out :?: do you need anyone, huh? : Mrgreen:
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by edfed » 09/04/10, 12:25

This is obviously not to put everyone in the same basket Edfed .. (I specify)


and yet.
there are those at the bottom of the basket, and those above the basket.
there are those who carry the basket
and those waiting to be brought.

those who are in command, in 2010, are all of the same kind, namely, domineering rulers (narcissistic perverts), they all want power, and when they do, their promises are rarely kept.

they are not in a basket, they are waiting for the basket, full of pretty cherries to eat.

we can speak with images, but it amounts to hiding the reality that is:

some want to dominate others.
the others accept domination.
domination is translated by a culture of fear.
fear translates into a total passivity of everyone.

when we go through the legal texts in detail, what is it?
it appears that these texts are written by those who govern.
they are often completely useless at our scale, but they are used to accumulate personal capital.

as for example, a bizarre law that was created (I do not remember which one) that exonerated a person who would have worked in Belgium, France and Switzerland in the same year (2008 I believe), if it is not a specific law made for very particular cases of wealthy businessmen or politicians ... what is it?

another nice law, voted unanimously by all the deputy (right and left confused) grants them almost 6000 € unemployment benefit, in case of no reelection, for 5 years, followed by a lifetime indemnity of 1300 € (a worker's salary) for life. without having to justify any job search.

if this law is made to help the people, count how many MPs are not re-elected, how much it costs the taxpayer, and how much money could be really used to create jobs for everyone.

between being a thinker of the state and being a laborious worker, the difference is there, one benefits from the others and brings them nothing real.
the other builds, manufactures, allows others to have useful or indispensable goods.
one is paid a lot for nothing.
the other is under pay to work.

from there he discovers a simple proposition:

to modify the smic and to modify the salary of the deputies.
once the salary of the politicians is at the same level as that of other trades, we will see how much they really want to be political.
I think they will prefer to work in private offices after that. career, career, career. cash, career.

then there is also a problem of size, the media are overpaid, which leaves little room for honesty in this environment.
a pro footballer touches more than a head of state ... is this normal?
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by Obamot » 09/04/10, 14:47

edfed wrote:some want to dominate others.
the others accept domination.
domination is translated by a culture of fear.
fear translates into a total passivity of everyone.

It is not so simple. If you have studied HR a little (and I think so since you're talking about it?) You should know that there is an overwhelming proportion of people who need to be "in a hurry" to work. In a way, there is a kind of "need for constraints" from human nature (this is what we call it).
I understand that you would like things to be "simpler" and to be regulated by a sort of "immanent justice" which would make a "sort" between "good" et "bad". But we can also think in the other direction and say - "Who would be able to manage himself and who would not be" ...
It is enough to see the dilemma that this question suggests, already for parents who have children to raise ...
Being so Manichean, the risk would be great to slip to injustice ...

So even if the reasoning starts from a good intention ... in the end the practice is impossible. It can even remind of unglamorous episodes of humanity or attempts of this kind have failed ...

edfed wrote:as for example, a bizarre law that was created (I do not remember which one) that exonerated a person who would have worked in Belgium, France and Switzerland in the same year (2008 I believe), if it is not a specific law made for very particular cases of wealthy businessmen or politicians ... what is it?
it would be necessary to find this text, it seems interesting to point out, this "business".

edfed wrote:another nice law, voted unanimously by all the deputy (right and left confused) grants them almost 6000 € unemployment benefit, in case of no reelection, for 5 years, followed by a lifetime indemnity of 1300 € (a worker's salary) for life. without having to justify any job search.

... when you were told that you had to engage in politics ... (it's for fun)

I would not comment on the remuneration of politicians, it is largely another debate. (I hear that it corresponds "to the current world" and that inevitably they seek to create a certain attractiveness compared to the industry) When will there be bonuses for politicians who would be re-elected => blâââ € : Mrgreen:
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by dedeleco » 09/04/10, 15:56

the need for a CHEF, because we are torp beast to shut up and listen to others

The need for a dominant leader is a instinctive behavior in men, monkeys, dogs (even stronger) and many mammals, whether stupid or intelligent !!

When in the war she has not stopped since always even among the monkeys:
US war crimes are numerous with Bush and others before and after:

Sorry, the information is mostly in English:
Crimes against Humanity
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &themeId=3
Eight Million Africans Died in Wars Financed by US, UK
https://www.econologie.com/forums/posting.ph ... ply&t=9576
Rendition and the "Global War on Terrorism": 28 Nations Have Supported the US in the Detention and Torture of "Suspects
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=18419
Media Disinformation Regarding America's Afghan War
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=18367
Depleted Uranium Radiation Resulting from NATO Bombings in Serbia: High Incidence of Cancer
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=18432
After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there was Fallujah
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=18520
Bhopal: 25 years of poison
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=16425
Israel treated its soldiers as guinea pigs
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=12912
The Great Irish Famine Was Genocide
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=18156
Indigenous genocide in battle for oilfields
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... &aid=13994

Finally democracy is measured by the freedom of this information. Without democracy, crimes are invisible
Most Popular Stories
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... ostPopular

These crimes and misfortunes are endless and we do not have the impression of real progress.
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by Obamot » 09/04/10, 19:11

: Shock: !!! Theuhhh :!:

So, your website goes back a lot in my Dedelco esteem Image
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by chatelot16 » 09/04/10, 21:56

dedeleco wrote:This subject resembles that of capitalism and Marxism there is more than 100ans that has been followed by the catastrophic excesses of the mid-nineteenth century dramatic.
We must avoid excesses and intolerance if not the best intentions as equality of all and justice, ecology, for the good of all, will again excite fascist or communist.
It is appalling that the communist country China (not to mention North Korea), in principle egalitarian and just, exploits its inhabitants with much less respect and concern than capitalist Europe (little labor law, no social security, censorship, rich privileges, etc.), all this to make us buy cheap their quality products limit and reduce to nothing parts of our economy.
Whenever we buy pants, tool, electronics, solar panels, or Chinese toys we participate in the exploitation of Chinese workers underpaid, unemployed in Europe and the destruction of the planet's anti-ecological, and we are totally helpless .
Currently Chinese are rich enough to buy a French company and pour it as soon as they own its nugget, wood forests in Gabon to destroy!
So the best human intentions at the beginning can be deviated to the worst.
It is necessary to avoid certainties and peremptory judgments.


it is not the Chinese guilty: they do what they want! at least it is progressing while we are under development

of course they sell their bazaar 10 cheaper than if we make it in France

Where is the problem ? it is not up to me to blame the Chinese for working with low wages

but I notice especially that in France the law (or worse the norms which have the force of law, without having the legitimacy of law) impose multiple expenses and wastefulness ...

it is thus a gap or incompetence of our government which unbalances the concurence: as long as there is not something done to restore a hope of profitability to those who try to manufacture in France, it will be necessary to be content with what the Chinese do for us to sell without worrying about our future

if WE take back the orders WE could manufacture the products it takes to be effective for OUR future


you spoke of engineer who shit: the goal of an engineer is usually to make good product: when it is shit it is rather under the pressure of a financial director who wants to earn more! (without paying anything)

at other times in history where the engineers who ran the plants were progressing more than they do today

now that it is the financiers who control, we let the progress to the Chinese
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by edfed » 09/04/10, 22:42

in any case, if we discuss here, it is because we are aware of a problem.
So, now, we must not think too much about why it's like that (we'll have time after the revolution), we have to think about a direct action to remove the problem.

that's all.

no longer worth enumerating, you just have to find a fault and slip into it.

together, the fault can be very easy to penetrate. if we start 1 million to do a mass action.
or if we put ourselves in commando groups trained, we can get something.

we must act, that's all. after, we discuss.

use fire against fire. to use their reasoning of manipulators to arrive at the compattre.

because you have to try to excuse them with things and things,
1 / we ended up offering them the second cheek, and our posterior, and we return to 1 /
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