Should we stop the massacre? [by lejustemilieu]

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by swift2540 » 06/04/10, 22:42

Hi,
+ 1 Capt_Maloche :!:

What you need to learn first is that power is in your shopping cart.
Every act of purchase, no matter how innocuous, will give a signal to an industrialist.
If you refuse the chickens in battery, stop buying eggs n ° 3
If you refuse child labor, select your purchases.
If you refuse relocation, buy in national priority.
If you refuse deforestation, buy fsc or equivalent.
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If everyone did that, then the signal would be given, no more need
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by sen-no-sen » 06/04/10, 23:40

Exact swift2540, our choices determine our future, however we must already be aware of it, and especially have the will to act!
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"Engineering is sometimes about knowing when to stop" Charles De Gaulle.
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by swift2540 » 07/04/10, 00:43

Totally agree sen-no-sen,
but those who are on this forum have at least one awareness, even fuzzy. And it is by the discussion in small doses that we can best convince.
If you land at home screaming bbc qqn, warming, must act, ... sure that's going to be Image see Image
On the other hand, if during a renovation you slip him "you would not put a few cm of insulation?" By explaining to him the benefits for his wallet + a "pride-green-in-the-air-time ", then it will be Image

Ditto for food, start with simple things. Made the experience. After talking about breeding in battery (there you have a response of the kind it is tainted) requests to qqn if he can read an egg.
No in 95% of cases. Take the time to explain, and you will see that after we open the fridge to brandish you an outdoor egg or organic! !
(By the way you all know how to read an egg ???)

You have to remember where you come from. until the 50 years, the question was could I put something on my plate?
Now the question is what should I put on my plate?
It's a big difference!
But with drifts: pesticides, hydrogenated fats, additives of all kinds, ... : Evil:
With a (small) chance: everything is written on the label : Idea: just read, and understand.
I learned (a little) to read, I explain when they ask me, or in the course of a discussion. Without stupefying militant kind. And it works.
Even if that seems ridiculous, you have to "start the machine", and for that you have to click. Once the mechanics have started, we no longer go back. And that's the important thing 8)
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by zorglub » 07/04/10, 10:28

No in 95% of cases. Take the time to explain


in some cases, we explain on certain subjects in particular: cigarette, drug, AIDS ect, but what is the result? no

Maybe the risks, already real, were the dead end, the results might change!
but the man is such that he will not change his behavior, otherwise since the time he would have evolved faster and better. unfortunately I do not believe it anymore and less and less when I see the generation coming .........
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by renaud67 » 07/04/10, 11:30

Hello,
in comment of the 1er station of the faire:
The ipad comes out ... 300 000 orders the 1er day: Y has a job : Cry:
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by Obamot » 07/04/10, 11:39

From a job point of view, there is abstentionism. ~ 50% during the last regional:
http://www.publiciblog.com/blog/index.p ... abstention

...who said "Act locally" ? :frown: : roll:
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by renaud67 » 07/04/10, 12:46

I do not believe at all in the will of any policy to change the consumer society :?
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by the middle » 08/04/10, 17:04

renaud67 wrote:I do not believe at all in the will of any policy to change the consumer society :?

Hello,
I was afraid that my words would be misinterpreted, but it is not so.
I am very happy.
For me, Renauld 67's answer sums up the essence of the problem:
Everything goes through politics
A simple example among others: premiums for solar collectors, insulation ... it's political.
Second example: the technology evolves by leaps and bounds in case of big world war (it is political)
Why not make big changes in peacetime?
In reality, the human being asks for only one thing, but often he does not know it, and does not know how to achieve it, because he is manipulated.
This thing he asks for is happiness, the joy of living.
Outside, the people who have the power truncate the truth of the joy of living.
Simply because they believe that by siphoning the money from the "working" mass, they will become as rich as possible, and in this way, believe they have access to happiness (or power, which is a disease for me)
The problem is there ...
But not long ago, a very rich man gave all his possessions, and now lives like many simple people ...
For me, he made a mistake, he should have created a working group with economists, psychiatrists, benevolent industrialists etc ..., to try to find solutions (if there are any) to the disaster that is getting ready (who is already there).
What a catastrophe? the human machine has lost all common sense, quite simply.
And it's wanted! by the money machine.
The problem has become global, and the solution will have to be global.
Otherwise, the earth will be Easter Island number 2.
Finally, I will say that there is one exception: the BUTAN (it's political)
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by edfed » 08/04/10, 17:12

Too much suffering and hatred accumulated, apart from a war, famine, disease, cataclism that would kill 100% of humans, I see no solution.

you have to format and reinstall, that's what we do when the system is too hard.
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by Obamot » 08/04/10, 17:14

+ 1 Lejustemilieu

... it is necessarily political, since its representatives serve the economy as it is now, the same one that is based on the laws promulgated by the legislative of each country and implemented by the executive ...
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