How to survive from scratch?

[Thieu]

What says ???

'Do not know...

Sorry.

Thieu.

[Lietseu]

Welcome to you Thieu (want it?)

Seriously, the practical aspect developed by fplm seems important to me ...

So I will soon make an answer with interesting indications in this direction, just to revive the debate and add concrete things ...

Meow

As usual Ahmed, I follow you, for lack of anything better

[dedeleco]

I had written a list of disasters from the past and we all dream of becoming Robinson Crusoe philosophical to by Rabbit who has real experience in the summer. How would he manage in winter to hunt bears like men his ancestors, 12000 years ago with Clovis points?
Choose your disaster:

Many very real disasters have taken place in the past, the worst of which are very rare.
Thus approximately every 500million years, the worst occurs, an explosion of near surpernova in our galaxy (at less than 1000 light years!). We would undergo a gamma irradiation on all the earth destroying almost all life !!!! This happened, think specialists 440 million years ago. Even in a cave we are irradiated !! Our ancestors survived !!!
Then there are the gigantic volcanic eruptions, supervolcanoes and meteorites (with Tsunamis more than 1Km high), which can trigger these volcanoes too and reduce the oxygen to breathe !!
Our small ancestors like rats survived better than the big dinosaurs !!
There was almost no life in the oceans, so our ancestors were more gifted than us !!!
75000 years ago the men identical to us, at the stone age, almost disappeared reduced to a thousand approximately by the supervolcano Toba in Indonesia which started a glaciation for thousands of years, and we are there thanks to them who knew how to solve this problem of survival with ashes everywhere, and a general cooling (more than 2m of ashes all over India) !!
A large volcano can generate a 400m high tsunami, proven by geological traces !!
It is unpredictable and therefore any prediction is wrong.
Survival depends on the type of disaster !!

In any case life has resisted everything for 600 million years after a glaciation of the whole earth to the equator !!.
Before it remained unicellular for lack of oxygen it seems?

What would you do after the Toba supervolcano 75000 years ago with 2m of ash all over India, 10cm on all the earth sterilizing everything and an icy cold without sun and thick clouds all black with ash for weeks?
Some of our wild ancestors in Africa have succeeded, allowing us to exist!
How did they do it?
The slightest error had an immediate sanction which seems to have selected the smartest Darwin, since the man has accelerated his speed of technical progress.
The US program Survive on W9 gives an idea of ​​the difficulties and errors in the different environments from the desert to the arctic ice.

[Ahmed]

The slightest error had an immediate sanction which seems to have selected the smartest Darwin, since the man has accelerated his speed of technical progress.

Warning! It is premature to conclude, the "smartest" have developed a technique which has ensured them a triumph which could sign their loss ...
The vision of Darwin does not reflect all of reality and the notion of balance seems to me to be much superior to that of competition (which itself implies a certain balance).

[dedeleco]

Okay for balance but my word error is inappropriate, because in a catastrophic situation, at night, acid rain, thick ash, food almost destroyed, it is by chance, but only those who are able to favor survive luck at best by judging the best possible, which is adapted to the situation that luck provides, (like a cave, where to accumulate provisions before their destruction) and there is almost no competition, but survive by not missing not the little luck that presents itself.
Some of our ancestors survived to allow us to live !!!
Darwinian evolution is very complex for life, there are dynamic balances but in brutal changes, the balance is broken, there is a selection of those who survive, first by chance but also by ability to do the choices that allow them to survive, whether it's microbes or us.
Life with microbes or single cells withstands everything (120 ° C, cold, dryness, sulfuric acid, without oxygen, H2S, and even swimming pools of nuclear cells !!)
Their DNA can be cut into tiny pieces by radiation and they can survive by reconstructing all their DNA genes !!
The ultimate in survival !!!
Darwinian evolution does not favor the intelligent because in 600million multicellular life we ​​are the first with our intelligence and the dinosaurs who walked on 2 feet with free arms like us, did not evolve an intelligence as we in 200million d years !!
Flying with your arms is much more likely, flying lizards, birds, bats.

[Ptilu]

The peculiarity of the man is not only his hoop and his legs:

A possibility of communication which allows an extraordinary adaptation generation after generation

An extraordinary tool: the hand !!! never appeared before primates

Man can survive in the most extreme conditions (space, Antartic) thanks to his ability to anticipate his adaptation, unlike animal life which has only these physiological aptitudes of births, and very little acquired to resist the natural selection.

There remains the risk of unanticipated self-destruction ...

[Lietseu]

What says ???

'Do not know...

Sorry.

Thieu.

I'm sorry too, because I didn't get cekskiditlemister


Meow

[dedeleco]

How to survive after a Chernobyl in France, a whole contaminated region, in one day, evacuated for millennia, sooner or later with certainty, because nuclear like man cannot be infallible in perpetuity!
To make it late, do not vote for those who want the EPR even less developed and yet already under construction !!!!
Revelations from an EDF internal source: the EPR risks a nuclear accident:
http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/index. ... page=index
http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/index. ... page=index
Nothing more to eat that is not with radioactive particles and plutonium !!!
http://users.skynet.be/mauriceandre/
http://users.skynet.be/mauriceandre/bombeatomique.htm
http://users.skynet.be/mauriceandre/ra-rn.htm
http://users.skynet.be/mauriceandre/ray.htm

One day, an unthinkable nuclear accident will occur in France and it will be necessary to evacuate an entire region overnight so as not to return there for centuries, even millennia !!!
We have come close to such accidents already !!!
http://www.dissident-media.org/infonucleaire/
http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/
Read these staggering reports if you want to have a Chernobyl in France !!!
To read this report too:
http://www.greens-efa.org/cms/sujets/do ... isk@en.pdf
The greenest possible is not the lie of the electric heating and the electric heat pump of nuclear origin !!!

[manitou22]

Hello,
let's stay zen, the pronuke (rather capitalist) shot themselves in the foot by privatizing EDF, their dear shareholders will soon understand how much it will cost them to dismantle the old power plants not to mention the abyss of the EPR, or EDF changes its vision on the nuke, either its action will not even be worth the price of paper;
they no longer even have the distribution, all that remains is to settle the (radioactive) pans. On the other hand, friends, prepare your generators because the watt is going to be luxury.
A+

[Ahmed]

Hey, Lietseu, you wrote:

and for those who cannot watch the videos there is this (not yet read) http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/wiki/im ... ste_Fr.pdf

I will come back to it after reading, good fun.

where are you in your reading, that we discuss it a little?