How to survive from scratch?

[swift2540]

As soon as you think about the future, you are no longer in the present ...
In fact, as soon as you think :-)

But if you don't think, you catch the IQ of a green plant
And then there is a difference between thinking about something constantly and knowing in the back of your mind. Between dreaming and acting in a way

[Lietseu]

Curious ways of presenting things ....

In Zen we talk about non-duality, (thus) insisting more on the fact that duality is the engine of the world of causalities (in which we live) every thing having on earth in the minds of people and in what they consider as reality two aspects, one positive - the other negative; white-black etc ...

Emptiness is a path that leads to considering the things of the world as having no intrinsic reality.

In simplified acceptance, this amounts to saying that the sage who looks at the world through his being escapes the fascination that seems to be the things of this world (they are dual) and therefore no longer identifies with I am- I'm not; I exist-does not exist; these things no longer having any attraction for him, he lives in the present moment here and now, which is a space of peace and tranquility.

Which would not prevent him from diving back into it if that is his desire or his work (in terms of karma).

The great masters who have passed and are still on earth generally have a taste for making their human brothers understand things - which does not mean that they are forced to do so, but that they have the "need" to do so.

Meow

Back to the original subject? ..........

[bernardd]

Back to the original subject? ..........

You wanna get me out of the present

Yet there is no longer cold nor hunger, no problem, no departure ...

[Lietseu]

Besides, all religions have a notion of paradise (hell, purgatory, nirvana ... make your choice )

All religions of power ...

Which keeps the followers outside of the present :-)

Here we are, we must not compare philosophies or religion which wishes to bring man back to balance, to dictatorial religions which impose one or more narrow visions of reality, with the sole aim of restricting the negative impulses of l man or to make him believe that he comes from the thigh of Jupiter
and therefore, therefore, that it is superior to all other creatures on earth and created to dominate things by an avenging god or of bad hair

Meow

[Lietseu]

Back to the original subject? ..........

You wanna get me out of the present

Yet there is no longer cold nor hunger, no problem, no departure ...

Hmm, we will have to discuss this in depth elsewhere than here and now!

Meow

[Former Oceano]

Somewhere I think the subject is badly named.

How to survive from scratch...

It should be how to survive without anything ou how to rebuild from scratch ou how to live from scratch

The term survive implies that there was a disaster.
Then what is behind the zero?

Naked in the forest?
All alone in a devastated city?

The zero starting point is therefore the point that will serve as a reference for the construction and evolution of the structure ...

[Rabbit]

Rabbit +1 nothing to change ... good analysis! And we can see you're talking about something you know.

Yes, I was lucky, although at the time I didn’t
seen that, having to survive in the woods (in Quebec) of
end of May to August. I only had a hunting knife, a lighter, clothes
that I had on my back and a small igloo tent.
There is a very flexible shrub (like lead wire) down there.
the bark makes very good rope. I used it to make
snares (main victims the brats, which I no longer know
see even in photo), to fish and do various crafts.
Birch bark (papyrifera) was used for containers,
make a sheath for my knife or light the fire.
plants are edible, some of which (wild ginger and wing
wild) are quite delicious for spicing.
The first thing to do in this kind of situation is to find
a source of water (not easy) .Then finding a place not
too far to pitch a tent. Well exposed and sheltered from the wind.
After that is the search for animals that are easy to catch (including the
epic pork, groundhog, turkeys, frogs, crayfish, fish) and finally
s interested in plants.
One or two precautions make this type of camping more
pleasant.
Avoid storing food near the camp.
attracts lots of critters that are not always edible or
who don't let themselves be turned into steak.
with skunks and black bears. Oh yes you have to be very
far from the cubs. Even if they seem alone, the mother is never
very far away. The cubs have a tendency to want to come
play with you. It degenerates quickly when the mother shows up.

The experience still makes me lose a lot of Kg.

[Ahmed]

Lietseu wrote:

Your "very American" is if I can say so, "very French above all."

Too bad you perceive this through your intellect (ego), an approach to being seems to me more detailed.
You know, that part of you that lives there in the dark of what Tolle call the ego, that is to say, the mental construction built since your childhood, the noisy inner voice which covers everything, and which is in fact a construction of your mind not of what you are for real ...

Indeed if you judge the work of a man through the work of another and the filter (necessarily limiting) of yours, there is little light that arrives .... qq who have read Marx little not to retain of him his darkest aspect and see among other things, the go-getter and philosopher side of the character, he is not only the father of Marxism, but hey, this is not my cup of tea ...

Admittedly, I admit, I perceive all this through my intellect and my mental construction, but I reassure you: this construction is not yet finished!
But OK, Tolle, this is not my cup of tea…

Knowledge is a collective construction since it proceeds by accumulation (it is the famous "We are dwarves perched on the shoulders of giants" of Newton), however the contribution of each is judged by the yardstick of its novelty and I see nothing in the text that you propose to our reading that is nothing other than a pale markdown Marx. When drawing inspiration from previous work, it is customary to quote the author (s) and to insist on the personal aspects that one intends to bring to the building.

The funny side of the noted symmetry is that the two authors appeal to a determinism: scientism in the case of the text, and "historical materialism" in Marx. Fruitful for part of his work, this historical materialism still shows its limits if we make (which is the case) an extensive and systematic use ...

Having said that, I am ready to debate all the doubtful aspects of this text, ... the interesting and positive considerations, everyone will have noted them.

[Lietseu]

Well you see, these are precisely the positive aspects that interest me !!!

The rest is the expression of "intellectual masturbation", I am more interested in concrete things that can be implemented, like this cup of tea that I would like to drink in your company



Meow

[Ahmed]

Unfortunately the positive aspects are condemned by the negative aspects!
The only interest of the positive points is to help us better define our objectives (because they remain valid outside the text considered), which is much better than knowing whether or not to adhere to this or that smoking theory.
The advantage of the negative points is that they teach us to be suspicious, especially towards our worst enemy, because the closest, ourselves !.