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by The Passing » 06/09/05, 11:27

The Greens should already start by dealing only with ecology instead of getting lost in stories without interest for this type of party.

Besides, there should be an ecological institution with the same powers as those of the justice system, which can, for example, shut down a business when it does not meet pollution standards.

This kind of institution should be independent of governments for it to be effective.
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by Christophe » 06/09/05, 13:58

Benoit- wrote:The Greens should already start by dealing only with ecology instead of getting lost in stories without interest for this type of party.

Besides, there should be an ecological institution with the same powers as those of the justice system, which can, for example, shut down a business when it does not meet pollution standards.

This kind of institution should be independent of governments for it to be effective.

Completely agree ... unfortunately apparently as soon as we reach power we lose our convictions (assuming that the green executives are not all opportunistic upstarts at the base ... what remains to be proven)
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by Rulian » 06/09/05, 14:46

It will be necessary to create the "crime against the environment", to be tried by an international tribunal.

Can always dream ...
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by Christophe » 06/09/05, 15:05

Rulian wrote:It will be necessary to create the "crime against the environment", to be tried by an international tribunal.

Can always dream ...

"Crime against humanity" could also be suitable ... Especially when we see the increasingly deadly and devastating climatic disasters ...

Besides, I believe that a small state of the peaceful islands (don't ask me the name ...) has already filed a complaint (preventively?) Against the oil tankers. Indeed, its island being so "low" that an increase in the ocean level of 30 cm would wipe it off the map ...
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by MobyleX » 06/09/05, 18:25

In any case if there is something of which I am sure it is that in 2007 I will vote for bové: it is the only one which does not see that these pu *** n of economic stakes or which does not will not buy back. He is the most "human" (the most thoughtful) of all the potential candidates, at least he gets involved in just causes, he acts (maybe a little violently but we can't have everything).
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by Christophe » 06/09/05, 20:52

Yes me too ... but I still "heard" the following hypothesis:

"Bové (and the peasant confederation) would be paid by Monsanto to prevent (or at least slow it down) the independent development of European GMOs ... thus allowing Monsanto to have TOTAL domination (with a nasty pun) of GMOs ... "

Well I find it hard to swallow this (especially when we see the cases of McDonald's, symbol of the USA) but in the world in which we live it would not surprise me more than that .... :(
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by A2E » 09/09/05, 17:08

econology wrote:Yes me too ... but I still "heard" the following hypothesis:

"Bové (and the peasant confederation) would be paid by Monsanto to prevent (or at least slow it down) the independent development of European GMOs ... thus allowing Monsanto to have TOTAL domination (with a nasty pun) of GMOs ... "

Well I find it hard to swallow this (especially when we see the cases of McDonald's, symbol of the USA) but in the world in which we live it would not surprise me more than that .... :(

where did you find econology?
can you send us a link?
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by gegyx » 18/02/06, 16:30

José Bové and Noël Mamère sentenced on appeal Sentenced to pay € 300.
Bové, Lemaire, Mamère and others risk seizure.

http://www.jp-petit.com/Presse/condamna ... mamere.htm
(sorry Christophe :D Mac Do vs. Mc Do)
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by gegyx » 13/09/06, 22:40

http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/societe/ ... S1716.html

“Five peacekeepers from the Republican Security Company No7 should be indicted on Wednesday, September 13 by an investigating judge from Bobigny (Seine-Saint-Denis) for" extortion "and / or" attempted extortion of funds "on taxi drivers. "……

“These men belong to the same company based in Deuil-la-Barre (Val d'Oise), of which seven other members were also sent back to the assizes in Paris in a case of alleged rapes of foreign prostitutes. The boss of the CRS, Christian Lambert, promises administrative sanctions "very severe". "

This revealed case is serious, for police officers in the exercise of their functions.
The problem is that history repeats itself, in the same company, already brought to dishonor.
The cleaning or tightening of bolts does not seem to have been done ...
The resignation of the Minister of State, Sarkosy, head of this ministry, should flow from the source, in the country of "morals", "reason" and "enlightenment" ...

Could this be an opportunity, since he intends to leave the government in January, to return to the electoral campaign? : Mrgreen:
(Ah well? Wasn't that the case so far?)
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by Targol » 14/09/06, 00:13

Since Gegyx has reopened this old thread ...
Jaques Brel wrote:We often saw the fire
From an ancient volcano that we thought was too old

: Lol:

MobyleX wrote: In any case if there is something of which I am sure it is that in 2007 I will vote for bové.


I had understood that French law prohibited to stand for election if you did not have a clean criminal record.

With all the pans that justice (if we can use this term) stuck to José's buttocks for daring to move to defend our future for all ...

Christophe wrote: Yes me too ... but I still "heard" the following hypothesis:

"Bové (and the peasant confederation) would be paid by Monsanto to prevent (or at least slow it down) the independent development of European GMOs ... thus allowing Monsanto to have TOTAL domination (with a nasty pun) of GMOs ... "


So what ?
For once I am for an action of these * $ £ # | @ \ ^ from MontSanto ... : Evil:
Let them rot their continent with their shit. When they have shot all the biodiversity and all independent agriculture in the United States and they will create hunger because a small detail that they had not foreseen will have shot all of their plans and seeds (* ), they will be very happy that Bové and other Kokopelli resisted here.

(*) as a reminder, bio-diversity and genetic mixing are the best weapons against diseases and parasites.
As proof, this experience:

A particular bacterium, whose name I no longer remember, has the particularity of being able to reproduce either by parthenogenesis (self-cloning) as do the majority of bacteria, but also by sexual reproduction (therefore mixture between 2 DNA).
A lab did the following experiment: they took 2 populations of this bacterium and, on one, deactivated the gene responsible for sexual reproduction.
They then subjected these 2 populations to extreme conditions one after the other (very acidic then very basic environments, very cold then very hot temperatures, ...).
Well, out of the 2 populations, the one who could no longer reproduce other than by "identical" DNA duplication almost completely succumbed while the other, through sexual reproduction and therefore by exchange. DNA has been able to strengthen its resistance and limit damage.


(If someone finds documents on experience, I'm a taker)

To conclude about this "sponsorship" of Bové by "montmalsanto :
Man is still far from equaling nature.
Let them reduce their biodiversity and run the risk of suicide.
They pay José bové to prevent it in Europe?
Very well: their greed will be our survival !!!!
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