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chatelot16
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by chatelot16 » 04/03/13, 16:52

you have to do with the computer available

in phpbb there are only moderators who can moderate ... let everyone the opportunity to forget a message is not expected ... and is it desirable? there are some who would be able to rot even more by moving everything!

to make that this oblivion faces with a number of different member clicks ... there are some who would be able to register under several different identity to afford this pleasure!

to make it possible to click against ... and that it is seen ... and that else can click for? complicated ... not expected in phpbb ... and then is this really a solution ... coluche said: it is not because there are many to be wrong that they are right ...
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by Alain G » 04/03/13, 17:37

Thank you, Chistophe!

It is sad to get there but when it does not become more livable it takes shock treatment!


The HS is not a problem in itself because it is impossible not to do, the HS for personal attacks are ideally to proscribe, it is necessary to put in the mind of a speaker posing a simple technical qestion and as answers he gets bickering and arguments having nothing to do with his subject, it does not give too much the taste to return.


(Old mode modo on> don't be reassured here)
We are not in competition or it is absolutely necessary to give the best or the longest answer which confuses the initial question, to respect the answer of the others without absolutely wanting to advance his in a repetitive and abusive way> the questioner can get an idea himself and ask new questions on the answers received, moreover that feeds the conversation, not to repeat the same things over and over again on different subjects, this amounts to being untimely off-topics and tires the reader by limiting himself to only a few subjects by being convinced that he will find the same answers on subjects less sensitive to his attention. The controversy is not a serious fault in itself and puts a little spice in the subjects, where it becomes a problem is when this controversy drags on over a long period of time becoming harmful to readers who get tired of it very quickly even if at the time it made you want to read out of curiosity to see the outcome of the debate.

(Old mode modo off)

Psychology is a subject that I avoid just like religion and we could add the politics (we could see the result between me and André who has unfortunately degenerated) because soon the brains get hot and we lose all control over these sensitive topics!

I invite those who do not post any more to come back so that we can find this forum that we all frequented because true freedom of speech without regard to the subjects returns to us in the conviviality of yesteryear!

Nothing in what I say comes from a text taken from another site and only reflects my personal thinking!

Alain
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by Did67 » 04/03/13, 17:38

Overall agree with some points raised:

a) econology is under-moderate, so too many threads "rot", degenerate into a quarrel between people (or egos) ... instead of being a debate of ideas!

b) ... even if one of the charms is being able to "digress" to the limits of politics, "rare" opinions, points of view bordering on esotericism, etc ...

c) We can still in general distinguish what is a "subversive opinion" - which has an interest - from a "personal attack" or from the "need to express a personal ego. BIG LIKE THAT!) - no interest (the people in question have only to pay a shrink! Or a bitch! - I try to be a little subversive me too !!!)

d) We must find a compromise between this freedom and "rotting" ... which, in my opinion, will be done by:

1) a hard core of moderators (for one person, the task is too important); it seems to me that there are pillars in this forum, besides Christophe, the founder ... So a "square" of identified pillars assumes moderation ...

2) Everyone can trace what he thinks to be an abuse to these "pillars" (which, by computer, can also decide "collegially"; this would be similar to a "reading committee" as most have. serious scientific journals!)

And everything will become calmer soon!
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by Other » 04/03/13, 18:03

Hello
Good decision Christophe it was time to make tune-ups
You do like in a factory when two employees are fighting, the direction dismissed both, the one who received the blows and the one who gave them, after investigation, she re-embeds them, in principle that moderates the belicots (my union experience, me says that there are recidivism tendencies.)
If I opened this post it is in order to make a place for grievances and to try to get out of topics that have degraded this forum . (Alas I took part and I let myself drag a little too far, although watching do nothing, withdraw, it is not the solution.)
The night for you is the evening in North America, 6 hours shift. What surprised me is that I posted to 1h local hours of hours, not even 1 hours later a post arrived with a long list of copy pasted other posts, or the character is very effective on the research in the forum or he has already prepared a file prepared, a bit like a lawyer who is preparing to plead his case ....
We are on a forum friendly, no need to wear a carbon jacket or heavy helmet and prepare for personal attack.
Personally just going to look at the glued copies I would have had for part of the night, then go glean them on the forum , put them in a post is a day of research (an old 69 years like me it is not fast)
When a guy post on a forum he must ask himself whether his contribution is forum if his contribution does not affect the forum . (There is no place for denigration or for personal attacks)
When we write on a forum It's not a doctoral thesis, it should be as simple as a conversation between people who have an interest in the subject, if you have to weigh your words, look for your language and spend two hours refining the text, think that another is on the watch to find the flaw, to denigrate or try to handle defaults on figures or sayings.
THERE IS NO MORE FUN to participate.

Normally those accustomed to forum should try to regularize and ensure the proper functioning of the forum , not just watching and letting down the forum .
It's unfortunate to get there to regularize the function of the forumis the price of the great success of this forum ..

Andre
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by bidouille23 » 04/03/13, 19:58

bonsoir,

Chatelot, I made it clear if possible;), view that not possible I fully understand it was an idea nothing more ...

For your other messages I feel the experience, and find a lot of wisdom, and good examples to follow for us younger ...

I really like the idea of ​​the "council of the wise" moderators who would rule on a problem by computer ...

The whole having a consequence visible by all and therefore understandable by all and especially by the interested.

it is true that there are pillars on which one must know how to rest ...

Like a "boss" or a boss who must know how to delegate certain tasks (without having a vision of control and a preponderant opinion of course), but to simplify his life and lead to a just conclusion of things.

Looking forward to reading you again ...

To any problem you must know how to draw a lesson ...

Fred
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by elephant » 04/03/13, 23:06

André said:

When a guy post on a forum he must ask himself whether his contribution is forum if his contribution does not affect the forum . (There is no place for denigration or for personal attacks)
When we write on a forum It's not a doctoral thesis, it should be as simple as a conversation between people who have an interest in the subject, if you have to weigh your words, look for your language and spend two hours refining the text, think that another is on the watch to find the flaw, to denigrate or try to handle defaults on figures or sayings.


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by Remundo » 04/03/13, 23:12

For the number of moderators, it seems that there is more than Christophe.

Captain Maloche did a little bit at one time, but we see him less and less.
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by Christophe » 05/03/13, 10:03

Remundo; you are partial modo on the English part.

I can extend your "powers" to the whole forum! :?:
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by Christophe » 05/03/13, 10:06

bidouille23 wrote:I really like the idea of ​​the "council of the wise" moderators who would rule on a problem by computer ...


For me a forum must remain democratic and open to all, as much for dedeleco as for obamot we had made subjects "open" to whoever wanted to participate ...

Why appoint "wise men"? It is contrary to the spirit of a forum where everyone has the right to openly give their opinion ...
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by raymon » 05/03/13, 10:35

Phew, he is no longer here ...
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