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by neant » 07/03/06, 05:37

Yes, a priori this tree will fall with certainty.
After a small reflexion with two balls, like, a multitude of small forces before back before back, the wind in brief.
the bolts will disengage and even if they do not dislocate they will break in fatigue in traction.
My first job was as an electrical network fitter, and never a single pylon has been planted in this way, there is first a hole, in which the foot of the pylon is planted, on top we pour concrete and then the more importantly we put cables that act as vanes.
There it is quite the opposite, no holes, no planting, no shrouds and above all a big catch in the wind.
it can't hold, it's not possible.
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by jean63 » 07/03/06, 08:46

Paldeolian : Arrow:

Yes, but how can we believe that we can let such an aberration take root! I dare to hope that there is another fixing anchored in the ground in depth which one does not see on the photo.

If it is not the case, in the place of the inhabitants of the district I will make sign a petition to denounce this extremely dangerous risk near the Town hall.
: Evil:
Even without being an expert, you can see with the naked eye that it cannot withstand strong gusts of wind.
At Bouygues, they would do well to get advice from eDF :!:
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by denis » 07/03/06, 09:44

I think it should withstand the stresses of the wind. Because the designers, we copy nature !! :P :P (apart from the roots) ...
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by Christophe » 07/03/06, 09:53

denis wrote:I think it should withstand the stresses of the wind. Because the designers, we copy nature !! :P :P (apart from the roots) ...


Exactly ... in other words: it is a house without a foundation ... : Cheesy:

But I do not understand the subject of your debate! I think that the subject is not to know if this "mast" will withstand bad weather or not (personally I really bury myself) but to debate on the flagrant desire of "camouflage" (at least visually) of this mast! Thus allowing to open the door to completely camouflaged GSM relays! The concern is not the visual impact but the health impact of these relays!

More:
https://www.econologie.com/telephones-mo ... -2497.html
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by jean63 » 07/03/06, 12:20

For camouflage it is not too badly successful, but frankly everyone knows in this village that it is a GSM transmitter since: first, it is written on the panel of the building permit! secondly: if only by the originality of this camouflage, all associations are aware of it by word of mouth.

Regarding the health impact (I suppose you mean the harmfulness of the waves), you know that it is disputed by scientists (some), that there is no certainty as to their dangerousness ; there are also the high voltage lines which are near the houses ... and the supposed harmfulness of microwave ovens within a radius of 400m (book "these waves which we will make one day die") .... and the harmfulness of electrical networks inside homes (I also have a small box that puts in 6 volts the inside network of my house when no device is plugged in or in standby (in principle at night). Goal: remove the "radiation" around the power lines. I can find the doc if it interests someone.

If there were no requests for the mobile phone, there would be no problem of transmitters.
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by Christophe » 07/03/06, 14:41

Jean63 ... I advise you to watch the documentary cited above before stating that there is no risk ... You will quickly understand that we "a priori" stifle certain studies ... strange no ?

Yes for the demand but if there was no technology there would not be the demand: p It's a vicious circle ... : Cheesy:
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by vincent27 » 07/03/06, 16:02

The risk (I am not saying the danger) is there, and the fact of camouflaging the antennas (in a tree or a bell tower) makes the risk disappear in the eyes of the greatest number.

Everyone tends to want the comfort of a cell phone (if it is one ?????), but with the antennas in others only. Instead of making them aware that the phone is not necessarily 100% positive, we hide the antennas ...
Laptop enthusiasts are satisfied: more visible antennas = more risk. The operators are satisfied: more visible antennas = more suspicion. Worse, in this case, it is to replace the antenna by nature, therefore good conscience….

The debate can be extended to many areas of consumption:
- Transport, energy (systems consume less and less energy, but energy needs explode ...),
- Packaging: more packaging so as not to distort the products,
- ....
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by nonoLeRobot » 07/03/06, 16:20

In any case, we may be interested in new problems such as the radiation emitted by WiMax. http://www.neteco.com/article_20031029175746_.html which is a technology to come and which, surprisingly, nobody is talking about. However, the high frequency (~ 3GHz) and the broadcasting distance up to 50 km should raise questions before democratizing the system.

It is moreover difficult to have information on the emitted power, etc ...
Finally, there are a few here: http://www.etopia.be/IMG/pdf/antennes_gsm.pdf
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by Christophe » 07/03/06, 16:55

Hey coincidence?
http://www.01net.com/article/296179.html

MDR ... is the term Guinea pig intentionally chosen?
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by nonoLeRobot » 07/03/06, 17:00

Yes lol :D

Nevertheless in this case it is the opposite, it allows to have much less radiation (the WIFI power is very very low compared to GSM). And in the house the telephone would need to emit very strongly to pass the obstacles of the walls etc.

In short from a radiation point of view, it is rather a good thing. It's probably even better than a traditional cordless phone.
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