I finally opened the jar this morning and understood the cause of the failure ...
1) Inside the cartridge, we see some remains of the absorber (welded aluminum probably bad ...) torn off:
There are still chips from the opening.
2) I "reformed" as best I could the deformed part and we tried (by a pro with my mig) to weld it with MIG aluminum with more or less success on the plate cut from the cartridge ... good it holds.
Before it was not welded at this level, just fitted ... see 4) cause of the breakdown ...
3) Result placed on the paramotor.
There is all the same a "beautiful" relaxation pot with a divergent cone, here is the utility of the pierced part which is detached and deformed in the pot. Note the continuity of the slope of the cone with the widening of the elbow:
4) And probable cause of the failure: a rivet which is locked (and found in the pot) and which was used to crimp the absorber on the plate of the cartridge.
I turned the other rivets because 2 of the 4 remaining were moving ...
5) Tomorrow I will see a professional welder because my mig will not allow to properly reweld the cartridge and I will fix the diverging cone to the cartridge at its largest diameter as it was before (by riveting or if possible point of welding)
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A little surprised that this piece is aluminum (perforated sheet). The aluminum is well below 200 ° after the mechanical characteristics break the mouth a little ... (or even a lot), and at this location the exhaust gases easily exceed 300 °.
Your welder risks seeing himself on a sheet as dirty as that ....
If this pot worked as a real trigger, you will have seen a big difference in performance.
Your welder risks seeing himself on a sheet as dirty as that ....
There is all the same a "beautiful" relaxation pot with a divergent cone, here is the utility of the pierced part which is detached and deformed in the pot. Note the continuity of the slope of the cone with the widening of the elbow:
If this pot worked as a real trigger, you will have seen a big difference in performance.
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I'm not sure at all that it is aluminum this sheet! It deforms all too easily for aluminum, the feeling is between lead and tin! Very light too ..
The pot, sold at 480 € is given to be made of aluminum and titanium ... and since I don't see where the titanium could be otherwise (aluminum and ferric sheet) it may be this piece ??
Perfs level, my last flight I was really struggling to gain altitude, I put that on the aerological conditions but maybe the part broke towards the start of the flight ?! And certainly distorted since several flights ...
The pot, sold at 480 € is given to be made of aluminum and titanium ... and since I don't see where the titanium could be otherwise (aluminum and ferric sheet) it may be this piece ??
Perfs level, my last flight I was really struggling to gain altitude, I put that on the aerological conditions but maybe the part broke towards the start of the flight ?! And certainly distorted since several flights ...
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Possible but where is the titanium indicated on the technical sheets then?
Anyway, it's not so fundamental ...
Anyway, it's not so fundamental ...
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I found a TIG aluminum welder in the area. The pot is at home, it will cost me 20 to 30 € to close the pot.
I will put 3 or 4 rivets to maintain the large diameter part of the divergent cone!
I will put 3 or 4 rivets to maintain the large diameter part of the divergent cone!
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Christophe wrote:I'm not sure at all that it is aluminum this sheet! It deforms all too easily for aluminum, the feeling is between lead and tin! Very light too ...
The pot, sold at 480 € is given to be made of aluminum and titanium ... and since I don't see where the titanium could be otherwise (aluminum and ferric sheet) it may be this piece ??
The density of lead is 11.35, it is very heavy, soft and melts at 327 °. No chance you'll find it in your bazaar. Tin has a density of 7.29 (close to steel) but it is also soft and also melts at low temperature (231 °). Chui not sure that their alloys can undergo temperatures without damage as in your pot ....
Titanium is light (4.5) withstands temperature much better (450 °?) And is quite stiff (close to steel) ..... just the price which relaxes seriously .... it's annoying to weld and machine. Could it be an alloy (not very common?) That contains titanium?
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Densit%C3%A9
Perfs level, my last flight I was really struggling to gain altitude, I put that on the aerological conditions but maybe the part broke towards the start of the flight ?! And certainly distorted since several flights ...
When you break a two-stroke pot it shows immediately on the perfs (there is a lack of cannassons on call), the noise, the consumption, the wealth .... you can squeeze etc ....
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Yes Flytox, it is neither lead nor tin but I was talking about the malleability of the material only ...
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Apparently you didn't have a bowl, the school miniplane jars hold up for years
He may have more flight hours than you thought
He may have more flight hours than you thought
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Rewelded pot and riveted cone!
Welding price: 20 €!
Tomorrow I test on the ground ... and in flight if ok on the ground!
Welding price: 20 €!
Tomorrow I test on the ground ... and in flight if ok on the ground!
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