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by Christophe » 22/02/10, 16:43

Finally received the documents from the bank!

Here is the IBAN of the account:

IBAN: FR7642559000814102001504245
BIC: CCOPFRPPXXX

I work on a specific page for the association which will be online for the next few days ... to follow!

ps: those who want can already make donations / contributions by bank transfer. Specify (at least) your last name / first name and nickname in the communication.
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by jcf » 18/06/10, 15:09

Christophe wrote:Finally received the documents from the bank!

Here is the IBAN of the account:

IBAN: FR7642559000814102001504245
BIC: CCOPFRPPXXX

I work on a specific page for the association which will be online for the next few days ... to follow!

ps: those who want can already make donations / contributions by bank transfer. Specify (at least) your last name / first name and nickname in the communication.


Hi Christopher,
I unfortunately spend very little time on econology, to my chagrin, but there are so many subjects that interest me that every time I want to update myself, I burn out my day !!
Well, let's come to the facts: where is the association, is there a page that summarizes the objectives that you have set where I can quickly understand the work in progress, is there a way to join in line / Paypal or CB or should you always send a check?
Is the tax deduction established in France?
Do not type, do not type, if I ask all these questions it's just that I'm just very interested. : Lol:
Finally, I would have proposed either on the forum, either within the framework of the association, or both, moreover, the collaborative development of a multidisciplinary electronic injection system which makes it possible to control a PMC, a Meyer experiment or any other injection, with coupling on a computer to measure the value of the settings. I made it a functional specification but am unable to design the circuits!
Here, I look forward to your news, see you soon,
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by Christophe » 18/06/10, 19:06

jcf wrote:Hi Christopher,
I unfortunately spend very little time on econology, to my chagrin, but there are so many subjects that interest me that every time I want to update myself, I burn out my day !!


I know "a little" that ... :D

jcf wrote:Well, let's come to the facts: where is the association


Well for the moment not much new, we lack a bit of arm ... well of head ... Officially we are 4 members! But I admit that I drag a little to start the "recruitment"! (but I have a "good reason" currently ...)

jcf wrote: is there a page that summarizes the goals you have set where I can quickly understand the work in progress,


A page (a mini site in fact) is being set up (I know I'm in a rush !!) but here is a summary of the concrete objects that we have / will / want to develop / disseminate:

Non-exhaustive list of concrete actions (excluding debate and relaying of information) carried out around the forum https://www.econologie.com/forums/
For references: https://www.econologie.com/forums/search.php

These actions were all carried out without any financial help or subsidy and by volunteers!

Tests on MPG Caps (additive called miracles in the form of a pill sold "under the coat") and highlighting the frankly venal aspect of the case and the too modest results of the product.

Transformation of a (old) traditional oil burner into a blue flame burner, and in doing so allowed the understanding of the benefits of water vapor within combustion (transferable to vehicles)

Very important work (since 2003) on the injection of water into heat engines (reduction of consumption and 70% of smoke). Design of the instant steam generator. Montages carried out by several town halls (Vitry sur Orne) and the general council of Moselle. Installation easily transposable to CUS / CTS if desired! Numerous media references (including television news).

Launch of the Laigret project aimed at creating a real synthetic oil (whose characteristics are close to natural oil) by the action of Perfringens on fatty acids (waste).

Demonstration of the efficiency of a little (5 to 8%) of SP95 in the Gasoil to reduce pollution and consumption

Demonstrations of the efficiency of the various EGR valves of dismantling vehicles in support

Analysis and demystification of "gravity" or over-unit motors

Provision of calculation utilities on insulators, energy balances of glazings, advice on energy choices ...

Reflections on important thermal buffer houses (we have a house with a 70L buffer of water)

Some projects in progress:

Construction for mass production by the association of a water torch (by electrolysis of water to avoid the use of bottled gases such as acetylene)

Design and preparation of a water injection kit controlled by the vehicle computer

Assistance to a commune in the Ile de France region for the development of 350 hectares of green building


jcf wrote:is it possible to join online / Paypal or CB or do I always have to send a check?


No not yet, everything must be done in "paper" form, we want to launch it "gently" (we have never managed an association so I would not like to have hundreds of members overnight ...)

jcf wrote:Is the tax deduction established in France?


A priori yes since it is an association. 1908 but it is to be confirmed. For a membership of 18 € I do not think that tax deduction is the priority ...

jcf wrote:Do not type, do not type, if I ask all these questions it's just that I'm just very interested. : Lol:


You are right to do it! It will benefit all readers!

jcf wrote:Finally, I would have proposed either on the forum, either within the framework of the association, or both, moreover, the collaborative development of a multidisciplinary electronic injection system which makes it possible to control a PMC, a Meyer experiment or any other injection, with coupling on a computer to measure the value of the settings. I made it a functional specification but am unable to design the circuits!


So there you have to contact Capt_Maloche (it is the ... the secretary of the association) and he works electrolysis for the "chalum-eau" (do not waste time with Meyer on the other hand) and has for objective, with elephant, to make an electronic injection kit.

Here are the 2 corresponding subjects (among others):

https://www.econologie.com/forums/fabricatio ... t3170.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/injection- ... t5926.html

For the rest and more details, do a search with the right keywords: https://www.econologie.com/forums/search.php
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by jcf » 21/06/10, 21:40

Hi Christophe, thank you for your long answer!

Christophe wrote:
jcf wrote:Well, let's come to the facts: where is the association


Well for the moment not much new, we lack a bit of arm ... well of head ... Officially we are 4 members! But I admit that I drag a little to start the "recruitment"! (but I have a "good reason" currently ...)

A good reason ? You mean a mini-tip? Congratulations and good luck for your nights if that's right, -P

jcf wrote: is there a page that summarizes the goals you have set where I can quickly understand the work in progress,


Non-exhaustive list of concrete actions (excluding debate and relaying of information) carried out around the forum https://www.econologie.com/forums/
For references: https://www.econologie.com/forums/search.php

These actions were all carried out without any financial help or subsidy and by volunteers!

Tests on MPG Caps (additive called miracles in the form of a pill sold "under the coat") and highlighting the frankly venal aspect of the case and the too modest results of the product.

Transformation of a (old) traditional oil burner into a blue flame burner, and in doing so allowed the understanding of the benefits of water vapor within combustion (transferable to vehicles)

Very important work (since 2003) on the injection of water into heat engines (reduction of consumption and 70% of smoke). Design of the instant steam generator. Montages carried out by several town halls (Vitry sur Orne) and the general council of Moselle. Installation easily transposable to CUS / CTS if desired! Numerous media references (including television news).

Launch of the Laigret project aimed at creating a real synthetic oil (whose characteristics are close to natural oil) by the action of Perfringens on fatty acids (waste).

Demonstration of the efficiency of a little (5 to 8%) of SP95 in the Gasoil to reduce pollution and consumption

Demonstrations of the efficiency of the various EGR valves of dismantling vehicles in support

Analysis and demystification of "gravity" or over-unit motors

Provision of calculation utilities on insulators, energy balances of glazings, advice on energy choices ...

Reflections on important thermal buffer houses (we have a house with a 70L buffer of water)

Some projects in progress:

Construction for mass production by the association of a water torch (by electrolysis of water to avoid the use of bottled gases such as acetylene)

Design and preparation of a water injection kit controlled by the vehicle computer

Assistance to a commune in the Ile de France region for the development of 350 hectares of green building

Oaouh, I knew a part of it, but I zapped among other things the house 70 klitres !!!
Christophe wrote:
jcf wrote:Is the tax deduction established in France?


A priori yes since it is an association. 1908 but it is to be confirmed. For a membership of 18 € I do not think that tax deduction is the priority ...

Hihi, I think that in France it is 1901, and I will not be surprised that the Belgians did the equivalent in 1908!
Ok, for the tax deduction it is because I thought I would put more than 18 to get things done, but I will start with 18 and when everything will start put more.

christophe wrote:
jcf wrote:Do not type, do not type, if I ask all these questions it's just that I'm just very interested. : Lol:


You are right to do it! It will benefit all readers!

[Snip]
So there you have to contact Capt_Maloche (it is the ... the secretary of the association) and he works electrolysis for the "chalum-eau" (do not waste time with Meyer on the other hand) and has for objective, with elephant, to make an electronic injection kit.

Here are the 2 corresponding subjects (among others):

https://www.econologie.com/forums/fabricatio ... t3170.html
https://www.econologie.com/forums/injection- ... t5926.html

Very well I'll take care of it!
Thank you again and thank you also for everything you do for us, this site is really my reference!
Jean-Christophe
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by Christophe » 24/06/10, 13:43

jcf wrote:Hihi, I think that in France it is 1901, and I will not be surprised that the Belgians did the equivalent in 1908!


Well no it's a French association (indicated above: on the 1st message https://www.econologie.com/forums/associatio ... t8916.html ) but under the Alsace-Moselle regime (therefore 1908). For members and seen from the outside nothing in terms of operation nothing changes compared to an association. 1901 .... if not the fiscal aspect (more advantageous, since we can already allow tax exemption, see below, while a 1901 association must meet specific criteria to do so!)

jcf wrote:Ok, for the tax deduction it is because I thought I would put more than 18 to get things done, but I will start with 18 and when everything will start put more.


Here is what is tax exempt (under certain conditions):

Donations are eligible for the tax reduction:
- in cash (cash, checks)
- in kind (table, chair, IT equipment, etc.)
- expenses incurred by volunteers
- express abandonment of income or products
- contributions


And about these conditions, here is exactly what the local law says "conditions for issuing tax receipts to individuals":

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So if I read and understand correctly, and given our activity (scientific, cultural, educational ...) we are well eligible for tax exemption up to 66%.

Full doc: https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... nIJyYJ.pdf
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by coucou789456 » 25/06/10, 02:48

Good evening

among the founding members, there are among others Lietseu, I'm quite surprised, he hasn't been on the site since May 10, will anyone have news about him.

thank you in advance. I know that this message is off topic but I did not want it to get lost in the limbo of econology.

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by Capt_Maloche » 25/06/10, 12:41

Yes

he took care of his sister's funeral seems to me

we should not delay to see him again
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by coucou789456 » 26/06/10, 01:59

Good evening

thank you for this info, I am deeply sorry for the misfortune that affects him and transmits my friendships through you.

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