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by Cuicui » 27/10/06, 14:34

Christophe wrote: I think that a small biogas-hvb engine would not hurt ... but I bet that these last 2 were not retained in the list of clean fuels (it is true that the gas is very clean by compared to CO2 ... no coment).

After having eaten beans, we would even have an on-board biogas generator : Cheesy:
(I know, she's not terrible, we do what we can)
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by Woodcutter » 27/10/06, 14:59

The human reactor suffers from a deplorable performance in this area ... :?
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by renaud67 » 27/10/06, 15:06

It depends on the point of view (as usual) from where we stand Woodcutter, because we can say that we are not far from 100% compared to what we eat and what that we use: production of energy, organic fertilizers : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: .
We even know how to store energy (even a little too :P )
in short, we are not bad co-generators.
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by dreamer » 15/11/06, 01:32

Hello
Personally I find this rather a good idea.

It would make it possible to improve the performances because who says competition means money by the sponsors => engineers and bcp more interest to improve the performances.

Then I think it would show the world that clean car = competitive and not looking like a car with big batteries, which does a maximum of 50 km with one charge and which moves at the speed of a cooker.

Qd we see that for the moment, the most "known" competition is the race with an L of gasoline which is certainly very interesting but which does not really prefigure utility and usable vehicles, it would undoubtedly be a good showcase :)

Then who knows, it could destroy polluting competitions

Formula 1 Championship to H2 or other?
FOOT !!!
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by pollux » 15/11/06, 07:31

Hello,

Rulian wrote:in view of the future classification at the minimum of CO2 / km, I am looking for a volunteer with big calves to get started with me in the pedal car team. We are going to rot them all !!!! : Mrgreen:


if you have the tandem, I have calves! not big, but there are still some. I bought myself a recumbent trike recently (which I intend to streamline a bit and "electrify"), and I discovered a whole bunch of pretty cool vehicles called "véomobiles" (you know, the avatar of ex-oceano , which is also rife on forums recumbent bikes), which are streamlined and have electric assistance.
the most successful being the aerorider:

http://www.aerorider.com/en/aerorider.html

but its price is high, its mass too, and the power of the assistance a little low. and it is not a tandem.

that said, there is a way to make a shell for a tandem tricycle without too much difficulty, and we can make it much lighter.
a speed of 65-70 km / h could be reached with 600W of motor and two nags on the pedals. if you know where to find sponsors to develop such a machine (with 10 € we get by with 000 months of DIY, ridiculous budget for a prototype intended for a 6-hour race of the thing) and that this kind of vehicle is authorized to compete in the 24h of Le Mans "eco-alibi", I follow you, and we register! we are going to rot the cashiers !! yaaaaaahhahahaaa!

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by Rulian » 15/11/06, 10:50

If you want to build a slightly original prototype bike, this is typically the kind of project that might interest mechanical engineering students. In my school, there are guys that we make a tandem with a kind of wheelchair in front of the handlebars, so that they can carry a disabled person in complete safety. It was damn good their thing and they demonstrated the operation by swallowing several hundred terminals in real situation.

If the race is created, the rules of engagement will have to be taken. If a muscle-powered proto is allowed, then a bike with 2-3 recumbent pedals could perform well, even without electric assistance.
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by Christophe » 15/11/06, 10:56

Rulian wrote:If the race is created, the rules of engagement will have to be taken. If a muscle-powered proto is allowed, then a bike with 2-3 recumbent pedals could perform well, even without electric assistance.


I try to imagine the beast !!
How do you see that? Head-on or in-line tandem style?
Where then a tricycle? 1 who leads and pereral and 2 who just pedal?
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by Woodcutter » 15/11/06, 11:31

renaud67 wrote:It depends on the point of view (as usual) from where we stand Woodcutter, because we can say that we are not far from 100% compared to what we eat and what that we use: production of energy, organic fertilizers : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: .
We even know how to store energy (even a little too :P )
in short, we are not bad co-generators.

Well ... :?
We lose a lot of energy just in heat (but unlike motors, we are a little essential) and in what we reject, there is also a very large amount of residual energy. So, no, very far from 100% ...


dreamer wrote:[...] Championship of Formula 1 has H2 or other?
FOOT !!!
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The FIA ​​has FINALLY (!!!) decided to authorize energy recovery under braking in F1 for 2008 or 2009, it is not too early!
So many years wasted when almost 10 years ago, a great man of F1, Bernard DUDOT (Renault Viry-Châtillon), had proposed to completely change the situation in F1 by providing each team with an energy equivalent (in the form of anything) that she could do whatever she wanted to get to the end of the race ...
There, with the +/- 100 million € (or $) of expenditure on engine research per year and per engine manufacturer, there would have been a way to find interesting solutions.
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by Woodcutter » 18/11/06, 15:37

Woodcutter wrote:[...] The FIA ​​has, FINALLY (!!!), decided to authorize the recovery of energy with the braking in F1 for 2008 or 2009, it is not too early! [...]
An article by Motor-Nature to illustrate these remarks, which I find quite interesting.
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