Miscanthus in Alsace, pellets and solar!

[Did67]

These drill could very well become arable land ... or vice versa, these forests have very well been replaced years ago farmland... I'm sure it exists even if it's more the opposite happens generally ...

Not always !

In the Middle Ages, much of France was forested. Then came the monks pioneers, the increase in population, etc ... The forest has declined in favor of cultures ... It was a real massacre. Fortunately, there were no environmentalists at the time, otherwise, there would have had battles to fight! It looks fine to criticize Brazil or Indonesia today! The residual forest as it remained in the late 19ème was either strategic value (oak forest for the Navy, wood for the railroad, a few industries: mining, glassworks ...) or the valuation of 'hardly cultivable areas; poor land, sloping land, wetlands, etc ... Today, the vast majority of the French forest occupies hardly cultivable areas or erosion threatening or very little fertile ...

I also recalled an undeniable fact: the PROGRESS forest in France ... so if it's for energy use, better Miscanthus as wood ...

For the progression of the forest, this is absolutely correct. The least profitable areas in "conventional agriculture" (mechanized, fertilized, etc.) are abandoned and are reforested - often it is moreover more scrub or forests of little value (birch , etc ...) ... Before globalization, there was thus after the war "francization" (each prdouction where it is most profitable), followed by "Europeanization" (fruit from Spain, wheat French, Dutch and Danish milk, etc ...)

I fear that for reasons of mechanization, miscanthus being grown primarily in lieu of traditional cultures - and not in the most difficult areas of mountain, where mechanization is difficult (or expensive - cf Switzerland) and where Brousaille wins ... Just a matter of cost of production!

But I repeat: in the future, there will be no simple solutions. It will probably not one ou the other, but both: mountain forest or on steep slopes, rocky terrain; Miscanthus plain ... Needless to fight for one against the other: it is both my general, each where it is relevant.

So no, it is "no better miscanthus than wood": it depends!

[Christophe]

Uh small error quote was me who said all this, I correct ...

[Ahmed]

Miscanthus is in fashion or, that does not stop being cautious. I would like to provide some clarification.
For Christine: giant miscanthus is a natural hybrid sterile, So no worries about this

... Rather invasive alien plant ...

The main advantage of this plant is that the aerial part Fanne in autumn and then dried up, so it is possible to harvest biomass without the need of dehydration, which is a big advantage.
I will not go back on the objections already raised, but on 3 remarks:
1- Magnet fairly moist, to be harvested in winter, it is hoped frozen soils (perhaps in Alsace, but he is also in Brittany ...).
2- combustion tests show a clinker production very daunting (it blocks all if we do not constantly emerges).
3- Although very reserved as for an intensive use of the forest biomass, I put doubts on the economic interest to plant this famous miscanthus whereas the forest is already in place and lasts much more than 20 years ... The farmers are still at risk for these foolish plans ...
PS: I adopted a miscanthus gigantéus to see what it looks like: after all it is possible that it can be used for something

[Christine]

Christine: the miscanthus giganteus is a sterile natural hybrid

Well no :
http://www.lille.inra.fr/lille_eng/layout/set/print/science_pour_tous/dossiers_thematiques/miscanthus_un_encouragement_pour_les_bioenergies/questions_reponses_pour_tous__1/comment_la_reconnaitre

He does not seem to be self-fertile, but he is not sterile.

On the other hand, rhizomes can be enough to make an invasive plant.

[Christophe]

It is sterile because it reproduces by rizome ...

In fact it's all clones if we think about it right?

[Christine]

It is sterile because it reproduces by rizome ...

Noon. It seems not to be selfing, ie it takes the male seed of a for another individual for there to fertilization.

I copy-paste for lazy people that do not open links:
"Miscanthus reproduces by outcrossing is to say that the fertilization of a female gamete is provided by a male gamete of another individual. According to a study by Deuter et al., Conducted only on Miscanthus sinensis, inbreeding seems to be excluded in this species due to the establishment of a self-incompatibility mechanism"

[Christophe]

I copy-paste for lazy people that do not open links and which contradict principle

They call me?

[Christine]

You got ears whistling?
I self censored by diplomacy before you posts

[Christophe]

Lesson of the day: always quoted the interesting extracts and to quote the link then

[Christine]

Hence the phrase Alsatian:

"Inquire about all quotations before deciting"