100 205% oil installation on diesel, questions?

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by squade » 07/05/08, 15:18

it's true it's better !!!! I'm going to see, already I thought to isolate it entirely but before I wanted to see if leaks.
the resistance is only used to defy a little bit in case of a big cold and need to make full urgent in case or what :D (give it to me)

On the other hand I just recovered oil in a UK she was in a temperate room I can not tell what temperature a little cooler than outside the oil was frozen. Is this normal cuisto ma said there was no additive he told me it was peanut oil.

why is she frozen? it freezes at 13 ° C?

must add additive as alcohol a proportion?

and is it possible to mix the oils in the filtration tank or not?
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by Other » 07/05/08, 18:24

Hello
said there was no additive he told me it was peanut oil.
why is she frozen? it freezes at 13 ° C?


Normal peanut oil is summer oil, it freezes easily, if too thick dilutes it to diesel, if not it takes a pipe of 12,7mm
to go from the rear tank to the heater with a good pump facet. (avoid passing the cold oil in the filter it clogs.
winter takes soybean oil, or sunflower

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by squade » 13/05/08, 16:54

ok thank you andre I will separately filter this oil and mix with diesel as you say.
How much percent can I ride knowing that I do not have a pre-feed system and heater still on the car yet?
can I go to 75% or only to 50%?

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by Other » 13/05/08, 22:06

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Without any heater or loopback, if it is a Bosch pump, start at 30% and keep a spare filter in the bag with the tools to change it at the edge of the road.
a pair of blue glove and rags
at the beginning, the oil does a cleaning of the syteme everything is collected in the filter ..

avoid emptying the oil directly into the tank, make a mixture in a can agitates the empty tank.


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by I Citro » 13/05/08, 22:55

squade wrote:I just got oil in a UK she was in a temperate room I can not tell what temperature a little cooler than outside the oil was frozen. Is this normal cuisto ma said there was no additive he told me it was peanut oil.


Collective catering often uses palm oil for frying ...

Why is she frozen? it freezes at 13 ° C?

It depends on the type of oil, its purity, etc.
Most of the cooking oils are mixtures of several types of oils (Sunflower, Palm "olein", Rapeseed, ...) liable to set below 25 ° C

Here, for information, some solidification temperatures averages different oils:

- Palm: 30 to 37 ° C
- Peanut: 3 ° C
- Olive: -6 ° C
- Soybean: -16 ° C
- Sunflower: -17 ° C

I have seen olive oils set between 0 and + 4 ° C, and Sunflower oils remain perfectly liquid at -18 ° C. I am thinking in particular of 7 micron filtered sunflower oil produced by Alain JUSTE of the Company Valenergol well known for his involvement in the case of dumpsters at HVB Villeneuve / Lot.

Can the oils be mixed in the filter tank or not?

Yes, as a result of changing the solidification temperature, as with any mixture ... (with oil, alcohol, etc.)
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by the middle » 13/05/08, 23:14

A co-worker rolls, with a mix of 75% rapeseed oil, and 25% oil (the fuel used for small poels without a chimney)
No engine modifications ...
To see in the long term ...
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by Flytox » 13/05/08, 23:32

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The colleague also uses a mixture of oil, restaurant oil in proportions ... not too controlled (Lucas injection pump, around 30%?) .... for about a year. According to him the performances are strictly identical (on an old Clio diesel) and he had no problem (for now because it decants but does not filter ...: Shock: ).
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by I Citro » 14/05/08, 08:49

lejustemilieu wrote:A co-worker rolls, with a mix of 75% rapeseed oil, and 25% oil (the fuel used for small poels without a chimney)
No engine modifications ...
To see in the long term ...


: Shock: I had never heard of the use of CLAM C oil in diesel engines :?: It is found for sale at the pump in the South West with signs:
"This is not fuel" : Arrowl:

Since some people use modified household fuel in their ZIBRO stove, since diesel engines run on heating oil ...
But do not do it, it's not good to defraud the TIPP and not consume the high-margin products of tankers. :x

In the same way, it is forbidden to fill the gas bottle with the LPG pump. If a lot of people do it, it's because it's cheaper (8 to 10 € per charge).

For the "bleaching" of domestic fuel oil (elimination of fumarol which gives it its red color), see the section "Heating at a lower cost" of the inevitable picchou
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by squade » 14/05/08, 10:13

thank you André. I will take spare filter with me then.
But is it that I can not go up to 50% in the summer with pure sunflower oil without making the modifications (pump, heater)?
because I reserve the modifications for my old 205D (Pi bosch) but I would like to mix for 306 too (PI bosch). : Cheesy:

Citro thank you for indication on the oils. I think that the UK uses mix with palm as well as you said but he did not show me the composition of his oil (can nine).

I will try other restaurants because it is better to recover 100% sunflower oil :D

By the way, I'm going to isolate my cumulus-de-filtration with recovering glass wool (work falls) : Idea: of jonule.

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by jonule » 14/05/08, 11:31

if, here in France it is:

30% without modification for all diesel in winter, 50% in summer.

indirect injection (your case) bosch pump: 50% without modification in winter, and 75% in summer (T ° C> 15 ° C at cold start).

after to go up to 100% cold start it will be necessary to overturn the injectors and put a prewash pump, for the winter an electric heater.

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