HVP Fuel: comparative combustion oil palm oil

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by the middle » 07/09/09, 11:17

In summary to roll the oil on an auto it takes certain conditions

always start with diesel
the engine must be at its temperature 90c
the oil must be between 70 and 80c
only at this moment transferred to the oil

the engine must be stressed (not famous in traffic and slowed down for a long time.

The purge must be done long enough, (6 km in my case)
the engine oil to be monitored if the level does not rise (dilution)
the fuel oil must be well filtered, deposited. to eliminate animal fat

a prewash pump or a system so that the vane pump does not cavitate, it is hard to suck oil through the fuel filter which is not very big.

To have oil to 80c it is necessary a good heater largely dimenssioné and for that it is necessary to eliminate the return to the resevoir and to put the system in loop.

apart from that it works well, for the good trip, to make 10 km better to stay in diesel especially if it is cold ..

Andre

After two years of using bi-fuel on two old nissan, with rapeseed oil from Chinese restaurant, I confirm 100% André's summary.
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by j-mimi » 29/04/10, 10:57

Frankly, now that they can no longer supply palm oil to the food industry, they are supplying it for our engines ...

I would like to see the condition of the engine afterwards and its lifespan. The lubricating power of palm oil is very thin.
Even if it means planting, new products exist such as 4T (10W40) based on rapeseed which works very well and which maintains your vehicle (and also cleans it up).
Personally I tried and on old cuckoo clock, you give them a new life!
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by Cuicui » 29/04/10, 11:08

j-mimi wrote:The lubricating power of palm oil is very thin

Uh, the subject of this subject, is it fuel oil or lubricating oil?
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by j-mimi » 29/04/10, 11:13

If I am not mistaken the subject is: HVP Fuel: comparison of palm oil combustion diesel?

To answer your request, I think that putting oil in its fuel is anti-ecological and that there are solutions which have proven themselves and which are ecological.
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by Cuicui » 29/04/10, 16:08

j-mimi wrote:putting oil in its fuel is anti-ecological and that there are solutions which have been proven and which are ecological.

For example ?
Isn't it better to put used oil in its tank rather than throw it in the trash?
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by j-mimi » 29/04/10, 17:15

If we talk about ecology, we should think about comparing the oil deposited in a recycling center and the pollution that you will carry out with your vehicle by doing such manipulations ...

Even if the respect for ecology does not slow you down, you will surely have surprises at the technical controls or the exhaust controls ...
Sometimes we think we save and we ruin ourselves ...
If I speak like this it is because I know what I am talking about ... I already made this mistake ...
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by proslash » 26/07/11, 16:25

hello everyone just an apartment. to solve the problem of oil viscosity, just install a small reheated kit including a candle + a pierced aluminum plate or circulate the oil with a 8mm diameter pipe for Peugeot 205td for example and place it a few cents before the injection pump! before starting we heat 2 minutes then we start! let the engine run for 5 minutes, in terms of filtering it is enough to put several fabrics then the oil drops drop by drop and clear. here is !

Even people who run on diesel have problems on some HDI 307sw models for example o :)
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21/06/2010 - 0:32
Hello,
me too I had the same problem, racing the engine at full speed which was turning even when switching off the ignition, neutral position it calmed down by itself after ten seconds. Result of the races a friend working at Peugeot towed it to me at home:
he removed 9 liters of oil mixed with diesel ... he cleaned the engine, the hoses etc ... for now the car works but he warned me that it could start again so I check the level of oil every 2 weeks.
new purchase 10/2004 131000km
I just bought a new car .. To whom can I sell this kind of car now? Do you have any advice to give me
Thank you in advance
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by Flytox » 27/07/11, 13:17

proslash wrote: in terms of filtering it is enough to put several fabrics then the oil drops drop by drop and clear. here is !

This kind of filtering (any tissue), it filters very large but not within 5 microns necessary, it works for a while ... before plugging the oil filter. Then the filter bypass opens when the back pressure is too high and the engine eats the sea directly.

If the injection pump holds, its life will be very shortened by wear.

Even people who run on diesel have problems on some HDI 307sw models for example o :)
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21/06/2010 - 0:32
Hello,
me too I had the same problem, racing the engine at full speed which was turning even when switching off the ignition, neutral position it calmed down by itself after ten seconds. Result of the races a friend working at Peugeot towed it to me at home:
he removed 9 liters of oil mixed with diesel ... he cleaned the engine, the hoses etc ...


When this happens to you (too full of oil sucked in by the intake manifold) it is better that you are in a clear straight line and stay in 5 ° to prevent the engine from going into overdrive and gun down. In neutral, this is the best way to detonate it. : Mrgreen:

The combustion must be particularly horrible to get so that the unburned oil flowing in the cylinders is found in such quantity in the lower engine. : Shock: You do that city cold engine ??? In any case when there is too much oil in the low engine, the efficiency becomes poor, the crankshaft spends a lot of its energy to stir / heat the oil instead of advancing the carriage ... : Cry: This must pollute copious !!

for now the car is working but he warned me that it could start again so I check the oil level every 2 weeks.

Rather treat the root ailment, check your injectors, and or your typical course (cold city etc ...)

new purchase 10/2004 131000km
I just bought a new car .. To whom can I sell this kind of car now? Do you have any advice to give me


Sell ​​trap, serious breakdowns and expensive guaranteed soon ..... attractive offer .... :frown:
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by proslash » 27/07/11, 14:25

Hello,

filtering is not a problem, because there are 1micron, 5micron fabric filters on sites, then add different fabrics

it drops drop by drop and the oil is clear like water or :)
since the cars have a diesel filter, here

after will have to change the diesel filtering every 6 months, dismantling my diesel filter is not at all dirty after 6 months of use!

in terms of heating, it consumes very little since it is a glow plug sufficient 12v which consumes nothing! frankly it does not slow down the engine

I can just tell you that it works, I know a person who made 200km in rapeseed lol then one day he demonstrated his engine to change the head gasket, valves and the whole engine were clean o :) the oil it lubricates apparently
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by gildas » 27/07/11, 19:38

True, but on condition of driving for long journeys, if not driving in oil (even at 20% oil and 80% GO) for journeys of less than 10 km it starts badly and the first kms are unpleasant.

Normal, the oil burns less well than the GO in cold and this situation damages the engine, that risks freezing the cylinders and sticking the segments. (Except if one starts with GO)
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