Vegetable oils animal fats: energy recycling

[Woodcutter]

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but 1000W ... why do this? It's way too much !-)

That is true.. too used to comfort.
But we are quickly there: a TV for football, the pc for the kid, the freezer, the fridge, the circulator and the regulation of the solar collector, ha! the complete regulation of the passive house. madam's hair dryer, and the dishwasher which consumes less? than a classic dish in the sink? .hop all of this at the same time bang 1000watt. [...]

A dishwasher or washing machine resistance is much more than 1000 W ...



Otherwise, quite another thing: the speech that says "Everything is possible, just do it"(I voluntarily enlarge the line ...) is in my opinion very counter-productive!
People who are disappointed or who feel like they have been tricked are always much more virulent than the satisfied and are very well heard.
I completely agree with the “prevention” policy of the people of oliomobile: it is better to take precautions at the beginning and then move forward than to go head-on so that it doesn't work.

[jonule]

People who are disappointed or who feel like they have been tricked are always much more virulent than the satisfied and are very well heard.

you speak for yourself but you forget the others.

I completely agree with the “prevention” policy of the people of oliomobile: it is better to take precautions at the beginning and then move forward than to go head-on so that it doesn't work.

ok see you in 10 years then! great spirit of initiative! and is there a "retired" section too? the one that gives lessons to that of "unemployed youth"?

[Woodcutter]

People who are disappointed or who feel like they have been tricked are always much more virulent than the satisfied and are very well heard.

you speak for yourself but you forget the others.

No why ?
It is an observation very easy to make, it suffices to know how to read, listen, analyze and synthesize ...

I completely agree with the “prevention” policy of the people of oliomobile: it is better to take precautions at the beginning and then move forward than to go head-on so that it doesn't work.

ok see you in 10 years then! great spirit of initiative! and is there a "retired" section too? the one that gives lessons to that of "unemployed youth"?

Hey, let's go straight to the "conflict of generations"?

It is not the prerogative of "retirees" to take precautions, as it is not just a trait of "young people" to be stupid and impulsive ...

One of the lessons of life, when you have enough neurons to think, is simply experience, which says that you can't do everything, everywhere and anytime ...


And MOSTLY one cannot say in general terms to others: "Go ahead, do it possible"when you don't KNOW ...
And knowing it is not limited to personal experience.

When you are responsible for a very visited site like Olio, it is quite normal that we advise people to be careful. Afterwards, at home, everyone takes the risks they want with their equipment.

Concrete example taken from your words: on Renault dCi engines, high percentage oil operation poses big concerns, from the few examples I have seen (one on olio, another is my brother ...), so I fully understand that the site does not say: it's possible ...

I do not think that you are able to apprehend that, considering the words that you make ...

[jonule]

well, you probably do not know the extent of my words, that must be why you judge me in this way, but this reasoning belongs to you you have the right, I just say it's a shame ... when the case of a DCi will arise here we will see then

here we are not on olio, nor on my site, and i don't see what importance you are talking about, except the one you give them. on their site it is also the bottom that there were the 1st sellers of all stripes who badly advised people to sell everything to them, I opposed it from the start, then I gave up, it has become what it has become.

when you say "high percentage" you do not specify which one. there are DCi and DCi, when everyone has them then you'll see who will say "but why did we wait so long then?" ... it's a simple bet that only commits me, of course, but I'm not the only one that's all.
you do not specify moreover what are the "big concerns": me it is this easy comment that I judge, without any precise details it is you who remains generalist, with negative tendency. when you will be out of your apprehensions and that you will have passed to the stage of the practice, alros you will be able to judge. for each application there are precautions to take that's all.

It is an observation very easy to make, it suffices to know how to read, listen, analyze and synthesize ...

ah I understand: you are a French "teacher" then?

[Woodcutter]

well, you probably do not know the extent of my words, that must be why you judge me in this way, but this reasoning belongs to you you have the right, I just say it's a shame ...

I can only "apprehend you" by what I read here ... And I don't always like it, so I say it ...

here we are not on olio, nor on my site, and i don't see what importance you are talking about, except the one you give them.

Gné?

when you say "high percentage" you do not specify which one. there are DCi and DCi, when everyone has them then you'll see who will say "but why did we wait so long then?" ... it's a simple bet that only commits me, of course, but I'm not the only one that's all.
you do not specify moreover what are the "big concerns": me it is this easy comment that I judge, without any precisions it is you who remains generalist, with negative tendency.

dCi from Renault therefore, it is specified, their operation is not very different according to the models ... In this case, these are 1.9 models from 100 to 115 hp mounted on utility vehicles. Between 75% and 85% oil if I remember correctly. Rather serious supply problem: a priori there is a "gadget" which tells the computer that the fuel density is not good (and apparently, this is an important data when the fuel is compressed to such pressures! ) and it happens to put the motor completely in curtain, or to make it work in very degraded mode, without power, etc ...

I don't generalize anything : I'm just saying that several negative experiences, linked to the very concept of motors, impose precautions, and first of all verbal precautions, when we talk about this type of subject!

when you are out of your apprehensions and you have moved on to the stage of practice, then you can judge.

I don't "judge" the technique!
I'm just saying it's stupid to always trumpet "It's possible"without adding a minimum of warnings ...
The precautions are not for me, but more generally when we address other interlocutors. It is one of the biggest trap of the Web: we find everything and anything!
By default I consider that it is much more intelligent and constructive to warn people of potential difficulties, rather than to let them believe anything ...

The famous speech "Ne don't worry, all is well, it works", it's more the prerogative of your AREVA friends, isn't it?

for each application there are precautions to be taken that's all.

This is exactly what I am trying to make you understand: Thank you!

It is an observation very easy to make, it suffices to know how to read, listen, analyze and synthesize ...

ah I understand: you are a French "teacher" then?

Why? It is necessary to be a "Teacher" to think that reasoning and intelligence are interesting in an exchange of ideas?

[jonule]

I can only "apprehend you" by what I read here ... And I don't always like it, so I say it ...

well you do well but what a waste of time sometimes not? -) like:

Gné?

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I'm just saying it's stupid to always trumpet "It's possible"without adding a minimum of warnings ...

and long live the warnings! verily I say unto you my brethren: it's possible ! Yes Yes ;-)

The famous speech "Ne don't worry, all is well, it works", it's more the prerogative of your AREVA friends, isn't it?

you score a point

So, going back to your fears, then:

Quite serious supply problem: a priori there is a "gadget" which tells the computer that the fuel density is not good (and apparently, this is an important data when the fuel is compressed to such pressures! ) and it happens to put the motor completely in curtain, or to make it work in very degraded mode, without power, etc ...

the "rather serious problem" that is the "gadget" (I do not associate a gadget with a serious enough problem ;-): it's just a T ° C probe at the input of the fuel filter which gives the fuel T ° C, which is related to the viscosity. yes it is a contraption: therefore a contraption is truncated relatively well! if electrical is more difficult than mechanical for some, it is not the case for others.

Besides, what you wanted to say is: Renault make fragile cars there? well that we already knew ;-) and yes, the kangoo DCi is relatively fragile, some say that the real vehicles are German, not French ... it's just a reflection that I noted, but to roll at oil remains true: Bosch and company ;-)

[Woodcutter]

[...] but what a waste of time sometimes not? -) like:

Gné?

...

It just means that I really don't understand what you meant ...
In decryption: you must make an effort to talk right!

[...] Well, to come back to your fears, then:

Quite serious supply problem: a priori there is a "gadget" which tells the computer that the fuel density is not good (and apparently, this is an important data when the fuel is compressed to such pressures! ) and it happens to put the motor completely in curtain, or to make it work in very degraded mode, without power, etc ...

the "rather serious problem" that is the "gadget" (I do not associate a gadget with a serious enough problem ;-): it's just a T ° C probe at the input of the fuel filter which gives the fuel T ° C, which is related to the viscosity. yes it is a contraption: therefore a contraption is truncated relatively well! if electrical is more difficult than mechanical for some, it is not the case for others.

You purposely be [censorship] or is it natural?
The rather serious problem is obviously the fuel supply fault, not the probe, the detector, the sensor, the sensor (or any information "gadget" whatsoever)!
On dCi engines, all management is electronic, even the accelerator is no longer live. As soon as a sensor gives information that the computer considers as interfering with the operation of the engine: CURTAIN! Goodbye ladies and gentlemen and good evening ...

[...] in addition, what you meant is: Renault make fragile cars there? well that we already knew ;-) and yes, the kangoo DCi is relatively fragile,

No, not in the least ...
ME leave the right to MONTH opinions.
I do not particularly consider that Renault makes fragile cars and I have never spoken of the Kangoo ...

[...] some say that the real vehicles are German, not French ... it is just a reflection that I noted, but to run in oil that remains true: Bosch and company ;-)

That must be why BMW took PSA engines for its Mini ...

If not for Bosch, I agree: it works really better but on the other hand, there is not a single French automotive supplier that does Diesel injection ...

[jonule]

Are you purposely being [censored] or is it natural? Shocked
The rather serious problem is obviously the fuel supply fault, not the probe, the detector, the sensor, the sensor (or any information "gadget" whatsoever)!

What elegance !
in any case be aware that the fuel supply on an oil vehicle is resolved by an electric pre-wash pump, they exist for the absse pressure circuit at 0.5 bar for D and TD, for other TDi HDi DCi pumps 4 to 6 bars also exist ;-)

as for renault, sorry but it is not me who invented the reputation, ets aches that the DCi have the very fragile pump, even with oil y'en has + 1 which broke. we cannot compare with German engines, pioneers of diesel injection (remember that Rudolf Diesel was murdered by the German secret services by crossing the Channel in 1913 to sell his engine to the English ;-)

[Woodcutter]

[...]What elegance ![...]

Always ! Elegance is my "trademark"!

[...] in any case be aware that the fuel supply on an oil vehicle is resolved by an electric pre-wash pump, they exist for the absse pressure circuit at 0.5 bar for the D and TD, for the others TDi HDi DCi pumps 4 to 6 bar also exist ;-)

Well ... go last time, after I stop, you're really too much [biiiiip] uh no, just autistic, that's it ...

[...] as for renault, sorry but it is not me who invented the reputation, etsches that DCi have the very fragile pump, even with oil y'en has more than 1 which broke. [. ..]

Renault does not manufacture an injection pump or injectors, or ramps, etc ... It's stupid, huh?
Like all the others, they are used by equipment manufacturers (Delphi, Bosch, Lucas, etc.)

[carburologue]

I suggest that a modo clean up the subject which was interesting at the start.
The mp to settle accounts, it exists.