Farm for sale in Brazil for soy or bioethanol

[the middle]

Hello,
I am watching a program on the theft of land in the world (fr3)
So, I typed "farm for sale Brazil"
Here is the first result .. (look at the area)
http://french.alibaba.com/product-tp/fo ... 82560.html

[Christophe]

We are looking at the same thing: https://www.econologie.com/forums/pac-le-bus ... 10874.html



It is to vomit, it is still the traders responsible ... must burst the abscess of these parasites of humanity! https://www.econologie.com/forums/post205492.html#205492

[dedeleco]

1510Km2 farm with 173Km2 of pastures, Matto Groso, the Chinese will buy for food, for $ 300million for much less than 300 US villas,
Unless this farm is in the middle of the land which will be flooded by a Brazilian dam ??????
Unless these lands are going to be returned to the native Indians who were once dispossessed of their ancestral lands ??????

At this price, all scams are possible !!

[sherkanner]

In the same genre:
http://www.mon-placement-financier.com/ ... estier.htm

I'm not even telling you what I think of this kind of practice ...

[Christophe]

In the same genre:
http://www.mon-placement-financier.com/ ... estier.htm

I'm not even telling you what I think of this kind of practice ...

After 20 years the teaks are cut to be sold at an estimated price between $ 180.000 and $ 300.000 (depending on the market).

It's not really the same: it's not short-term speculation on food or agricultural land ...

[the middle]

It's not really the same: it's not short-term speculation on food or agricultural land ...

But it is still forests, with all their biotope, which are razed ... and people displaced or eliminated, or modernized.

[Christophe]

Of course ... but it's not as bad as speculation on wheat, sugar or short-term land ...

And when it comes to biodiversity loss, teak is not oil palm either ... Teak is an exotic tree of primary forest ... Am not a specialist but I therefore think that it retains a certain biodiversity ... even in monoculture ...

[sherkanner]

Of course ... but it's not as bad as speculation on wheat, sugar or short-term land ...

And when it comes to biodiversity loss, teak is not oil palm either ... Teak is an exotic tree of primary forest ... Am not a specialist but I therefore think that it retains a certain biodiversity ... even in monoculture ...

Finally, for me biodiversity and monoculture are incompatible.

[Christophe]

Yes and no...

Take a forest from home, the forest of the moors for example, exclusively of maritime pines on hundreds of thousands of km²!

Well, there is still an acceptable biodiversity, right? In addition, we can "boost" this biodiversity:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/For%C3%AAt ... cologiques

However, like all mono-specific crops, those of pines are economically sound in the short term, at the cost of a harmful ecological balance.

The coniferous forest is the only one that can be established in areas where the conditions are too extreme for hardwood or mixed forests. The monoculture of conifers in all other places is therefore unnatural. It brings about podzolization of the soil, that is to say a sterilization of the topsoil of the soil by the systematic leaching of the nutritive substances which are there. At a certain depth, the substances carried away concentrate and form alios, the soil is hard and impermeable like stone. Compared to other types of forests, those composed entirely of conifers have a very poor biodiversity, because their litter is toxic.

A pine is fast growing. It is a rapidly profitable source of organic matter for the industry: it can be used from the age of 40 [7].

In the wild, the coniferous forest provides cover which allows, when the climate is favorable, the establishment of acidophilous hardwoods (a mixed forest settles). However, unlike softwoods, hardwood litter is non-toxic, which attracts extraordinary biodiversity. The biological activity of the soil, therefore the uptake and maintenance of nutrients in the topsoil, intensifies to the point of fertilizing it over the years.

To restore these soils, hardwoods are essential

Good example of the forest of the moors is therefore a little badly chosen: in a forest of firewood, monoculture in beech or oak, biodiversity is flourishing ...

I am wrong?

Biodiversity depends above all on the type of monoculture ...

[the middle]

Christophe your answer amazes me terribly:
Primary forests have a great impact on the weather, and many other things.
It is impossible to replace what nature has created over millions of years.
http://www.coeurdeforet.com/test/enjeux/le-probleme