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by Rabbit » 21/01/06, 17:52

To make alcohol is not too complicated.
They need sugar, water, mineral salts adapted, recipient then
what to distil.

First you have to find sugar, there are some who grow
in blocks or grains of different diameters in large areas.
It is the easiest to find.

There is also milk and honey (it would be a shame to make fuel)

Otherwise there is the sugar cane, the bretterave, the fruits, some
vegetables, etc. It is necessary to prepare the source of sugar before using it.
By rapping, pressing, shitting etc.

In addition complicated (and therefore more fun) there way to change
starch in sugars with enzymes. For starch, there are certain
vegetables (potato) and cereals (but, barley ..) which contain. For the enzyme it is necessary to roll up the sleeves
or so buy tot done.

Even more entertaining cellulite, among other content in the wood.
But it is frankly not easy to manage.N prevents it would be more fun to mow knowing that one will make it
fuel .

Once you find the sugar, you have to choose the yeast. There are some
The easiest to find are baker's yeast (baker's) and yeasts to make his homemade fruit wine.
The more effective the yeast is, the more sugar is processed into
alcohol will be fast and the more the meat can be rich in alcohol.

Once you have the sugar, the yeast and the water remain more than to mix. For the proportions of sugar it depends on the source of sugar, its richness and the variety of yeast chosen.
fermentation temperature depends on the yeast.

The trick is to make the yeast as happy as possible
and give them only the amount of sugar they are
able to dig. To give too much sugar would be wasteful, not
the same result because the mout will be less rich in sugar than it may have been. This will increase the energy consumption during the distillation.
It must also be avoided that the mace is contaminated by other yeasts
or bacteria. These are all more concurant, because they do not
will not produce alcohol, or worse yet will consume it.
It is sometimes necessary to modify the pH of the mole to protect it from the contaminant and at the same time to please the yeasts.
Mineral salts are added, always with the same intention
to contribute to the happiness of the yeasts.


Once the fermentation is finished. It is necessary to distil. This is not complicated.
but to be really effective it is more.
The alcohol alcohol obtained will be the 96% if all was well,
is more than removing the water that is still in excess, but it seems
that it is not indispensable.

Between us, it's easier to buy denatured alcohol and
to fete ca by tasting the extract of mout. : Cheesy:

To turn the mower with, it will once again be necessary
roll up the sleeves to adapt the engine to alcohol.
But that's another story ...

NB I have deliberately simplified, so that you have an idea of ​​the process
fermentation.
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by zozolapatate » 21/01/06, 18:12

Thank you rabbit !!!

I just went to buy Alsatian yeast to make the cakes ... I put powdered sugar in water (a bowl about ...) I put my Alsatian yeast ... Here is reagi pendan 3 -4 mn making lots of bubbles (CO2 I parie ....) and I still hear small bubbles ... The solution is white ... it means that the ethanol will be white ??? And how long does it take to leave this solution in the open air before dissolving ???

And also how to do dissolution ???

Thank you in advance
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by Rabbit » 21/01/06, 18:50

It would not be baking powder sometimes?
the only thing in common with yeast is that 2 releases co2
But not for the same reasons .
Yeast is alive, it eats sugar, develops itself and
excrete alcohol and other wastes including CO2
Baking powder is as its name says chemicals that are baking soda and cream
tartar. Adding water, this causes the reaction
which releases CO2.

As for the choice of yeast, take yeast from
baker to start, these are blocks that you will find in
bakery. If you have too much, make bread or eat
it's good for the skin. It's just that you're going to chew it up for a few hours. : Lol: on the other hand, if there are buttons in the figure
it will relieve you a little. When I was a teenager it was my thing to
escape the curse of the pizza face.
To return to your experience. Avoid powdered sugar, transformation
(mechanical) sugar crystallizes into powdered sugar inverted the
This makes it indigestible for yeasts.
Take some crystal sugar.
I advise you to get your hands on nutrients for
yeast should be found in the gardening stores or
quincailerie. Find yourself a seal of 10 L not too dirty, a heater with thermostat aquaruim (not essential if you do it ds a place heats .A place where your mixtures are not going too gener (It could feel strong).
With a bucket of 10 l, you should be able to get from 0.5 to 0.8 l if
everything is fine .(Be careful, it is not to drink, but to burn )

If you wish, I can meditate to find you the components
the most accesible to do your booze. But will tell me ds
what environment do you evolve, so that you can find something more fun than sugar.
Must see if a sugar beet is easier to find than a
banana diet in your area.
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by zozolapatate » 22/01/06, 00:11

Lol, yes it's baking powder ... Okay tomorrow up 7h to go to the bakery ... : Cheesy:

For the envirronement in which I evolve I am in the north of France ... At the moment it is 20 degrees in my house ... 15 in the garage ...

Potato peel it works to what I am told ...

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by Rabbit » 22/01/06, 02:03

I found you a forum well done or you can find all
information that will not be needed. it's over there :
http://www.1001cocktails.com/phpBB/view ... sc&start=0


It seems that for the fermentation of potatoes the
yeast is not essential.
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by zozolapatate » 22/01/06, 11:57

Ok I'll try to recap ...

I cut about ten slices of potatoes
I put them in 1 liter of boiling salted water
I'm cooking 20mn
I put the water + baker's yeast in a bottle, a container (protected from the light? It seems to me that the yeasts do not work away from the light ... no?) During 40 days and I regularly spend all the 2 3 days the liquid ...

And normally it makes 1 l ethanol ....

I'm sure of being deceived somewhere ... nah?
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by Christophe » 22/01/06, 11:59

The pb is that the 20 minutes of cooking "pump" a large part of the energy contained in the liter of ethanol ... not to mention the distilation to mount the titration ...
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by Rabbit » 22/01/06, 19:14

For salt, I'm pretty sure it's
nutrients and not table salt. You should ask
this precision on this forum ( http://www.1001cocktails.com/phpBB/view ... sc&start=0 ).

As for the final result you should not expect more than
0.8l of alcohol for a seal of 20 l of mout.

If you can find a sugar beet or two, serve in .ce
In fact, it will be more important to consume more energy than will produce the alcohol obtained.
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by zozolapatate » 22/01/06, 20:07

Good I think that with the vegetables I will give up ... I will do directly with sugar cubes as you told me ...
What could wait, for the moment the mixture sugar water and salt (table ... hum) + baker's yeast is gray ... cha bubble cha bubble ... Hope that in thirty days I'll have a kind ethanol that burns ....
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by Rabbit » 22/01/06, 20:33

Put a wipe on your seal, set it around with a string.
This will prevent your mixture from being in contact with the air.

How much sugar, how much water did you prepare?

What I think about it, leave the room where you ferment your mixture.
The CO2 that is released by the fermentation is not too
good to breathe.
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