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by abyssin3 » 06/03/06, 12:16

Return of exp after some time to roll with an addition of ammonia in the fuel:
- better performances, that's clear,
- conso +/- identical but difficult to see, I mainly do small trips. So it varies a lot ... It will take a little longer to have repeated numbers on the conso.

In any case, the engine rotates better than adding only emulsified water.
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by zac » 06/03/06, 19:29

For the decline of the engine brake it remains a mystery for me ...
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Reassure you, for me too and yet I re-tested 3 times !!!!
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by lau » 06/03/06, 19:45

Your experience interests me to the point!
I had already mentioned the thing in my first post in nov 2005.
Abyssin, zac: you incorporate NH4 in the bubbler or in the fuel?
in what form?
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by abyssin3 » 07/03/06, 12:33

Zac did it in the bubbler, he'll tell you better than me how.

I have done it by incorporating liquid ammonia fuel which I suppose vaporizes in the cylinder in gaseous ammonia.

But obviously it is not miscible, so for it to become so, I made according to my recipe for making "homemade" aquazole: You take a spray (kind of garden-1L) you mix 'water with a lot of emulsifier (surfactants Ex: 2mL of dishwashing liquid) and you do a lot of mess in the tank before refueling. To put large quantities (250mL, see 500mL) I mix before in a bottle of oil and I shake STRONG-> emulsion and I pour into the reservoir.

Here I did this by replacing the water with half alkaline ammonia (13%). That is to say that the amount of ammonia is VERY low in the tank, and it is much more effective than water alone. And it stinks a lot more too. : Shock:

In total, if I count the amount of final ammonia in a tank of 50L, I had to put Pigmentation 100mL mixture half water / half ammonia 13%, ie 6.5mL pure ammonia for 50L fuel = 0.015%

But I do not think I will continue very long: I do not know the consequences in terms of corrosion, injection pump, engine oil modification, etc.
And I'm waiting impatiently for a bubbler ... :P

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by lau » 07/03/06, 14:06

it is clear that it is better to act on the oxidizer.
I would like to do the test (in a few times) to incorporate in the bubbler some granules of sulphate of ammonia (in the absence of ammonitre 33,5% N), mixed with the boiling water of the bubbler it does not there is no risk, it is of a modest cost and one could perhaps see change ?? .. I judge only by the tests of conso
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by zac » 07/03/06, 14:07

Hello
I have more bubbling; I use a carbide 8mm, for the test it's simple instead of refilling water of my additional tank, I just pissed in (must ride on a block) : Lol:
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by lau » 07/03/06, 14:15

Ok so urea to 100%, no difference in conso but lower engine brake?
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by abyssin3 » 07/03/06, 15:09

In the absence of ammoniter to 33,5% N), mixed with the boiling water of the bubbler There is no risk


: Arrow: Ammonitrates, it's ammonium + nitrate, the perfect fuel-fuel that exploded AZF toulouse, which makes take off Arianne, etc ... I had thought but I find it still risky, if you have only one spark evil placed, fire engine or whatever, it goes up all the tubing (because more oxygen need) until bubbling or steam BOOM : Shock: . Result: the car cracks at the engine level to the trunk n (if the bubbler is in the trunk), usually one is in between ... : Shock:
For me there is nothing worse than ammonite steam heated and ready to explode.
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by lau » 07/03/06, 16:30

I have no trunk but a pickup!Image
As for the risks of which you speak and that I expected, I do not believe if one is limited to a glass of granules in the bubbler: we are not in pressure but in depression and moreover in humid environment. I remind you for info that 100% pantone works with mixtures much more heterogeneous! gasoline, diesel, alcohol ..
There is no risk in ridiculous doses of 1 glass for a 2 liters bubbler.
I would like to make this experience!
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by zac » 07/03/06, 17:32

Hello
lau tell me under which name I can find the products and dosages; I do the test (if it jumps it's not serious I saw other and the trash is well insured). : Evil:
Then i post : Idea:
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