Master 1994, diesel engine new, running on oil ??

[Chatham]

I'm sorry to insist but the diesel engine, the one we know for vehicles, was invented to run on vegetable oil, it is marked in the WRITTEN encyclopedias as well as on Wikipedia, where a lot of confusions are repeated I think ...

-1st Patent of Rudolf Diesel describing the principle of its engine published in 1892: it describes a compression ignition engine and pneumatic supply with pulverized coal (principle of supply still commonly used in furnaces of coal power plants)

-second patent of Rudolf Diesel 5 years later in 1897 describing the heavy oil diesel engine (period designation interchangeably combining fuel oil and heavy petroleum fuel) without any mention of vegetable oil, which will only be cited later as a commercial argument "for the development of agriculture" ...

this is my last intervention on econology ...

[jonule]

as you feel chatman but it's damage not to advance with U ...
Good holidays

your source if not?

I quote wikipedia:

His patent was filed under the name of “heavy oil engine”, because it was with this product that he worked. Heavy oils were residues from the distillation of crude oil after extraction of the products used at the time: a little bit of gasoline, a lot of kerosene and lubricants (oils and greases).

It was the Frenchman Lucien-Eugène Inchauspé (1867-1930) who, in 1924, by inventing the injection pump, made it a powerful engine. And production by Robert Bosch allowed rapid development of these engines. The first diesel passenger car was a Mercedes in 1936, then the Peugeot 402 in 1938.

we learn that the first car made available to the public was a Mercedes with a Bosch injection pump.
an injection pump can only run on oil.

Between 1911 and 1912, he declared that "the diesel engine can be supplied with vegetable oils and will be able to contribute strongly to the development of agriculture in the countries which will use it" and predicts that "the use of vegetable oils as liquid fuel for engines may seem insignificant today ", but that" these oils will soon become as important as petroleum and coal tar ".

[Christophe]

this is my last intervention on econology ...

pkoi?

Jonule you're pissing off, it's the second guy that you make run away in less than 2 hours with your green prejudices!

[jonule]

heho it's not a reason to be rude to me, they are great they do what they want, with me there is no prejudice, there is no green.

I'm like you, I wonder why? did he say it was because of me?
did you follow our debate, what do you think?
do you want it to be me the 3rd?

[carburologue]

So dumpling is wrong because if you have to be as picky as him, the rudolf diesel engine was running with coal residue.
In addition, it was not even Rudolf who invented it, the basic idea comes from the engineer captain, Rudolf has only taken up his idea, that's all.

[Other]

Hello

the history is written by men is according to the country or the place often it serves a national feeling not to say propagating.

In France we will tell you that it is Clement Ader the first who succeeded in a flight to the USA we will tell you that it is the Brothers Wrigth in German we will write that it is Otto Liliental ..

That gives good in the city where I live the production of the first Diesel single cylinder mechanical injection pump dates from 1900

Produced by Mr Deguise, a model is exhibited at the museum and I know the grandson of the builder who designed them, of which he still has the casting molds for the engine block. as well as a complete engine in working order, His grandfather was helped by a German
Sometimes the real story is just the one we want to tell us

the history of canada is taught in a very different way among francophones than among anglophones, in one book one writes patriot in the other one writes rebel ..
Yet there is only one historical truth ..

Andre

[jonule]

well;
I recognize the ambiguity, let's try to move forward, sic ela can lead us somewhere, which I doubt ...


is the word "vegetable" so important?
what is the difference between vegetable and mineral oil?

then we will say that his engine was invented (we will not talk about successive patents but what led to his factory for manufacturing serial engines for the automobile) to run on oil, whether mineral or vegetable.
GASOIL also means oil gas, made by the injection pump (spraying).

so here you go, oil engine.

the difference between oil, butter and fat, we can say that they are all oils, but that their viscosity varies, like coal, lubricating oils and diester.

So what I meant when I said that "his rudolf engine was invented to run on oil", it must be said that it is not the word "vegetable" that matters, but was invented for any oily body whose viscosity is acceptable.
when we know that between viscosity and temperature there is only one step, we understand why the countries of the east use oils like palm oil, jathropa, and we rapeseed and sunflower.

diester is an esterified vegetable oil (alcohol) + liquid than pure vegetable oil, a bit like petroleum, mineral oil, but which has been ... distilled to give gas oil, + viscous than gasoline, but which come not from a field but from a VERY FAT, so not to say very viscous and oily.
not to mention the tar sands ...

so skin on the ball as a debate I don't see any importance or so much wrong or reason.

it will remain that the diesel engine works perfectly with oil, and I add that it was invented for, look in your dictionaries and encyclopedias, it can be interesting to see what each one brings there!
and as long as you do, also report how he died, apart from "he disappeared crossing the sleeve" thin so he could not swim?

> By the way, Sawouah, have you identified the injections of your vehicles?

[Christophe]

For those who have not yet seen this topic: https://www.econologie.com/forums/pollution- ... t5859.html

[Other]

Hello

and as long as you do, also report how he died, apart from "he disappeared crossing the sleeve" thin so he could not swim?

Are you afraid of words, wouldn't that be rather murdered?
the diesel engine was in the sights of the military the first submarines of 1914 was not steam
in history they dug the eyes of the Watchmaker who made the chimes of the cathedrals, it was not bothered in 1900 to eliminate an inventor who could possibly divulge the way of making diesel engines to the English.
Closer to home in Belgium Mr Bull has been well executed for his expertise in super ballistic guns.

the years go by but the story is alike ..


the first esyteme injection it was a cylinder filled with fuel half and pressurized with a gas the injector was a needle with mechanical opening
diesel did not exist it was a residue of petroleum. at that time no fuel was standardized, on old books he describes the method for simple to know the content of gum suffers from fuels. the clues of cetene were known much later

Andre

[Woodcutter]

[...] Saches, that lemon sold Berlingots in Indirect Low Pressure Injection (IIBP) until this year. [...]

Huh?
And what were these mills?