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Re: Laziness of the (super) lazy in the 04 (800m)




by Diabolorent » 03/10/18, 09:04

It's crazy to see the adaptability of the thing!

In your house it's the roots that ran to find the food, at home it's the stem that has stretched out to take the sun

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Moreover, these cherry tomatoes there are not at all the same taste as the others! A little firmer and a little more acid and, unlike the others, no puff! Too far from the vegetable garden for these slippers : Lol:

It reminds me when we picked strawberries during our walks in the woods: depending on the place (moss, rock, sand) the taste was completely different, even a few meters away : Shock:

Hence the advantage of being able to experiment (I'll join you there Nico) in several corners of our properties, so as to find the "ideal" place for each crop. It is true that I tended to "put everything in the middle" (apart from the red fruits) but surely that other places would be preferable, especially for my peppers and eggplants which have a hard time giving and for my salads which have gone to seed quite quickly due to water stress.

To meditate : Wink:
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 03/10/18, 15:58

Moindreffor wrote:if I remember well at you it rained a lot the root did not need to sink a lot and if after a big dry period ben the plant is not suitable given its rooting

therefore the only remedy well to push the plant transplanting to force him to have at least a part of deep root

your idea is perhaps farfetched but rich in teaching all accounts and the result will perhaps give you a great satisfaction


Yes, it really pleased.

I do not know enough about the growth of the tomato plan to deduce one thing or the other but actually we can think that she had what she needed on the surface especially since there was a lot of straw around and that under the straw it was wet.

However not sure that transplanting into a pot will succeed.

Anyway it was transplantation or death so I had nothing to lose. : Mrgreen:
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 03/10/18, 16:00

Diabolorent wrote:It's crazy to see the adaptability of the thing!



Here again I am skeptical about the affirmations as long as the thing is not reproduced several times with the same result.

But we can actually assume that the foot becomes crawling to escape the shade of the trees and go off in search of the sun ... : Wink:

We should do some planting again next year and see how it behaves ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 03/10/18, 16:07

For my part, at the level of the experiments I am going

- buy commercial tomatoes and let them rot under the hay.
- seed sowing now

Mark the different places and see what this gives in the spring ....

The only regret this autumn did not have the time to build in time the chassis tests of protection of tomatoes to see from what level of protection we could keep them in the ground ... despite the frost

Because during the day in the sun you hit the 30 ° ... a shame to deprive the plants of this heat for a few degrees "in less than" in the early morning that fuck all in the air.

In my opinion well protected at least for a few well-stocked plants can be pulled a little longer.

But good for testing it will be for next year.
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by Moindreffor » 03/10/18, 16:09

nico239 wrote:
Diabolorent wrote:It's crazy to see the adaptability of the thing!



Here again I am skeptical about the affirmations as long as the thing is not reproduced several times with the same result.

But we can actually assume that the foot becomes crawling to escape the shade of the trees and go off in search of the sun ... : Wink:

We should do some planting again next year and see how it behaves ...

there is a simple experiment which will amuse the children, you make a "labyrinth" in a box and the further you go from the central box the more light it has, you place a potato tuber in the middle and you see the germ meandering until the exit
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 03/10/18, 16:12

Moindreffor wrote:
nico239 wrote:
Diabolorent wrote:It's crazy to see the adaptability of the thing!



Here again I am skeptical about the affirmations as long as the thing is not reproduced several times with the same result.

But we can actually assume that the foot becomes crawling to escape the shade of the trees and go off in search of the sun ... : Wink:

We should do some planting again next year and see how it behaves ...

there is a simple experiment which will amuse the children, you make a "labyrinth" in a box and the further you go from the central box the more light it has, you place a potato tuber in the middle and you see the germ meandering until the exit


Ah yes nice : Mrgreen:
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 07/10/18, 01:47

Kesaco is he pushing plastic bottles now?

Not particularly no but there I sowed various cabbages bought directly in the premises of a site "organic" well in all respects whose premises are located at the foot of Ste Victoire: buy local no?

In short 0 and triple 0 not a seed germinated: my faith ....
As I mentioned a little earlier in the subject, rightly or wrongly I suspected locusts

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So I told myself must protect all that.

But I did not have any seeds anymore.

Good Seed came to my rescue with Blacks from Florence.

This time everything went normally whether it was under the protection of the bottles or outside (for the moment)

It's sure there are a few less grasshoppers than a month ago.

As they are not the same varieties, as it is not the same period ... etc I conclude nothing but at least it grows in direct seeding.

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FYI Mrs. has done sowing in planters in the greenhouse and it also grows ... but after transplanting .... what I want to avoid.

The test being conclusive I will therefore continue sowing in the free space that had been devoted to the previous sowing fiasco company X. (name on request)

In any case the principle of protection of seedlings in this form seems interesting for various reasons ... to follow.

1 Accuracy
Unlike tomato seedlings in bottled bottoms and open top I changed the trick.
Bottom (neck) open as can be seen.
And high ah .... open and "closed" but the "open" is just a mistake on my part
The future will all be "closed", that is to say, actually cut in such a way that they can close to protect both bugs, cold and torrential rains but can also open at the time of watering and even be transferred the right moment.

2 Accuracy
Radishes were sown between the bottles, hence the bare soil.

3 Accuracy
These are just old self-locking blocks that hold the bottles
I think it is insufficient in case of wind a little strong, in this case I will "climb" 4 others around each bottle.

In the other part on the right it will be different ... to follow.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/10/18, 01:51

Small tour and meal at the Cucurbitaceae festival in Mézel today with a conference on “The Origin, domestication and diversity of fruits and vegetables” by Michel Pitrat, research director at INRA Montfavet ”

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Exhibitors, market gardeners ... and a bookstore (La Ruelle in Digne les Bains) .. and on his stand ... guess a little Image

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Damn it but it's of course ... the Potager du Sloth.

The bookseller admitted to me that I sold only one but it is already that ...

Of course I praised the quality of the book hoping it retains something of my kind words ...

In addition, the conference was very interesting because it focused on the origin of fruits and vegetables: a world totally unknown to me.

That's how I discovered, among other things, that the banana was a perfect sterile natural "GMO" that nature had created, we do not really know how, and that afterwards man had multiplied ...

The original banana being "infested" with seeds ...

And many other things ...
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by Did67 » 08/10/18, 10:25

1) At most "parties" I see book stands - but I haven't seen mine yet! My book is either not known or not appreciated in this more "militant" context, more "to produce its seeds" and "other perlimpinpin powders" ...

2) I hope you learned that the vast majority of our vegetables are exotic! This should lead any "reasonable" person to wonder about the fashion for "old vegetables". If our elders had been as obtuse as the ancient veg fans, most of the ancient veggies they treasure just wouldn't be here !!!

The vegetable gardens before the great travels of the 16th century were terribly bland!

But a fashion is not reasonable, by definition. And the proponents of fashion do not seek to question themselves!

3) The banana is parthenocarpic (a fruit which develops without there having been fertilization). It is therefore indeed an anomaly, a fruit being normally the development of the ovary after fertilization of the ovum by pollen ... But, already, the strawberry is a false fruit, resulting from the development of the floral peduncle (the "fruits" of the strawberries are the small black seeds that there are on the red strawberry resulting from the end of the swollen peduncle). Nature is therefore not stingy with pranks!

Aphids do the same through what is called parthenogenesis!

I wouldn't call them GMOs though. Care should be taken to use the "words" in the sense of those who created them: GMO means "genetically modified organisms" implied by human manipulation. Otherwise, we no longer understand each other and it is possible to say anything and everything! Afterwards, I admit that as a speaker, we all have our "quirks" to hold the attention of the public, which, otherwise, wins. I do not throw any stone, because otherwise, I will take it in the face!

Multiplication without the intervention of sexuality is very common in living organisms, especially plants: scissiparity of bacteria (which "cut" in two), grafting, stoloning, cuttings, etc ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 08/10/18, 16:16

Did67 wrote:1) At most "parties" I see book stands - but I haven't seen mine yet! My book is either not known or not appreciated in this more "militant" context, more "to produce its seeds" and "other perlimpinpin powders" ...


There you would have been surprised ... point of snake powder .... in small the party room

Ambiance family, agris, the elderly, no dogmatic, a meal to the good franquette, that volunteers, in short nothing militant nor in one direction or the other ... and apart .. we no bobos Image

As for the bookseller she was there more by opportunity than by knowledge of the environment.

But in her defense she can not know everything, it's a general library ...

If it had been a show of opera lovers she would have had her little book stand ... opera house
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