Le Potager du Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio

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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 19/04/18, 09:47

Did67 wrote:
1) Lovage: initially a purchased "bucket"; then collecting seeds and sowing ...

2) Raspberries, if they are "uplifting" (= almost continuous production), are sensitive to drought (they make shallow roots). The flowers abort as soon as it is hot and dry. Production stops. So yes, you have to water them.

The others, strictly speaking, unless they threaten to protect you, you can leave them: they make a big production, late spring / early summer. Drought does not affect them too much ...

3) Yes. These cabbages spent the winter outside (kale "kale", "1 head" cabbage, Siberian cabbage) ... Without any precaution. As besides the "seed onions" (onions "forgotten" during the harvest; found when unrolling the hay; grouped in two lines to have them in the same place; they are in the second year and will go to seed. ..


Ok, thank you.

Raspberries are theoretically goers, in any case purchased as such.
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by olivier75 » 19/04/18, 10:01

Machouette71,

Some market gardeners do it, but more weeding, it has to be wet enough to maintain soil life, which is the advantage of covering over biomass.

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by Moindreffor » 19/04/18, 11:20

Did67 wrote:
Moindreffor wrote:... but otherwise did you get bleached leaves? even if they were not huge because the goal was this one


Yes of course. Simply, they were a little scattered. The roots, already small, in addition, give several shoots all around, because I made the mistake of cutting the leaves before burying ...


I think you've gotten it upside down, if I can afford it, you've transplanted your dandelions too late or too small, to cover them with hay, or you just need a whole year to fill the roots
in short, it is a conclusive test because the goal is reached and full of lessons to do better next year, and help those who want to try

after there is perhaps also the variety, the capuchin beards may be longer leaves than your dandelions of meadows, because it is a selected variety, so to follow
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Did67 » 19/04/18, 11:44

We agree...

[The failure to have too many ideas "in mind", but not to realize them or so ... when it is too late. And sometimes to be elsewhere]
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by Did67 » 19/04/18, 11:46

nico239 wrote:
Raspberries are theoretically goers, in any case purchased as such.


So to put under perf (drip) in addition to cover with a material with a more woody tendency than the hay (BRF, mixture sawdings + clippings of grass) ...
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by stylo67 » 19/04/18, 16:32

Did67 wrote:...

3) Yes. These cabbages spent the winter outside (kale "kale", "1 head" cabbage, Siberian cabbage) ... Without any precaution. As besides the "seed onions" (onions "forgotten" during the harvest; found when unrolling the hay; grouped in two lines to have them in the same place; they are in the second year and will go to seed. ..


Bjr Didier precisely I have the same cabbage and I hesitate to cut them to the ground what is your method let them go to seed or cut or other ..... thank you for the answer
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Moindreffor » 19/04/18, 16:57

Did67 wrote:
machouette71 wrote:Hello everybody

News on this forum and beginner both in gardening and phenoculture here about two months that I read you and informs me with the videos.
My cover is in place recently (March) because I discovered the method at the beginning of the year.
I told myself that to accelerate the warming of the soil we could put up a black tarp over the hay for 3 weeks. Until mid May. Could this be detrimental to the life of the soil? Because of the temperature under canvas?

Thank you and sorry if the question has already been asked. Good sunny day. : Cheesy:

Caroline


It's a "tactic" that I envisioned. But still not executed !!!

The major downside is the slowing down of air circulation, in my opinion ... If the hay layer is thick enough, I think it will "dab" the overheating ...

the weather is nice and I found a good book of the coup I make the gray matter walk as the book says
and I let myself think that phenoculture is a new approach to the garden, so should not we try to invent the new techniques that come with it?
and sowing techniques must be part of it
I go back to the kitchen garden since last year and so I also go back to the garden department of garden centers and last year I found that the range of transplanting plants had been expanded with beans for example ...
So for me in phenoculture the semi online must live his last days, open the furrow is work and as the hay is a haven for slugs in other, they nibble too easily what is put within their reach , while remaining hidden from predators
paysan.bio had told us about his sowing of carrots in a bucket and that he then placed where there was room, so it is not only possible but it would not become the norm? not that I think to cross very easily

as we have seen, the distances between the rows can be reduced, but since Didier planting my shallots (without measuring) the weather was fine, it was easy, I explained above that I had done the minimum, and the lines were done one after the other and then I said to myself "you told Didier that he could close ranks and you didn't do it" and yes the gesture being as anchored, my lines were separated almost like "before", I took more care for the onions : Mrgreen:

so with sowing in a bucket, we must be able to do without the cover and be able to transplant when the soil is warmer, and especially I will try again this year to transplant directly into the hay without necessarily reaching the ground
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by Did67 » 19/04/18, 17:14

pen67 wrote:
Bjr Didier precisely I have the same cabbage and I hesitate to cut them to the ground what is your method let them go to seed or cut or other ..... thank you for the answer


I leave them until the end of flowering. Alas, I have a doubt about whether they are hybrids or not (I do not think so, but am not sure). After flowering, and their contribution to biodiversity, I keep one, the one that is along the way (so that it is not in the middle) for the seeds.

As the "cores" are very hard (and, in the process of decomposition, hollow therefore superb refuges for slugs), I tear them up and put them in a place where they will not bother me. For example, under blackcurrants. There, they can take all the time they want to decompose ...
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by Did67 » 19/04/18, 17:18

Moindreffor wrote:
so with sowing in a bucket, we must be able to do without the cover and be able to transplant when the soil is warmer, and especially I will try again this year to transplant directly into the hay without necessarily reaching the ground


The sowing of carrots was done.

Today, I sowed green beans in scoops ...

So, yes, this is one of the serious tracks ...

But the "gentleman", whom he seems to me to know, also says: "To each HIS vegetable garden of the lazy"! And one of the pleasures, I find, is to find your creativity. The pleasure of creativity, once the fear of not doing the right thing! Now, I conclude my lectures with the ambition to become "freed gardeners" (implying all the "jumble" of recipes, "I was told that ..." of "you have to do like that. .. ", pseudo-religions and true beliefs) ... [See the end of my talk in St-Jean de Sixt, on Youtube]
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by Moindreffor » 19/04/18, 17:34

Did67 wrote:
Moindreffor wrote:
so with sowing in a bucket, we must be able to do without the cover and be able to transplant when the soil is warmer, and especially I will try again this year to transplant directly into the hay without necessarily reaching the ground


The sowing of carrots was done.

Today, I sowed green beans in scoops ...

So, yes, this is one of the serious tracks ...

But the "gentleman", whom he seems to me to know, also says: "To each HIS vegetable garden of the lazy"! And one of the pleasures, I find, is to find your creativity. The pleasure of creativity, once the fear of not doing the right thing! Now, I conclude my lectures with the ambition to become "freed gardeners" (implying all the "jumble" of recipes, "I was told that ..." of "you have to do like that. .. ", pseudo-religions and true beliefs) ... [See the end of my talk in St-Jean de Sixt, on Youtube]


this is why I think of going to the buckets to do it in my own way, and especially because "transplanting parsley brings bad luck" I suffer that again
50 years at the end of the year, it is high time to free the mind

and by your fault, I have less and less desire to return to work, as soon as I close my eyes, in the shade (the Sun is forbidden me) in my recliner, I see myself cultivating a bigger garden not far self-sufficiency, a henhouse, some rabbits (my wife does not like) not too far from the sea to go fishing when the nap is over

well, we will be satisfied, the deckchair, the self-supported swimming pool and the supermarket's supermarket and garden corner, we will see the rest for the retreat

green beans in scoop I tested, no difference with direct seeding
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