Le Potager du Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Antifreeze cord in chassis

The sudden drop in temperatures allowed me to test my "anti-freeze electrical cord".

These are the electric cables used mainly to maintain the freezing of external pipes.

I acquired a model with thermostat, set to + 3 ° [below, it snaps; above 6 °, this is triggered], of length 12 m, with characteristic power of 10 W / m. So 120 W in everything. Value: about 55 euros (still!).

This is very easy to ask: it is a loop, very flexible. I used the sardines that I use to fix my drip, and I made a kind of mesh with constant spacing of approximately 20 cm, on the bottom of my chassis. Above the hay. Below the plates.

I plugged yesterday to 16 h. The temperature in the chassis, covered with 25 or 30 cm of snow, was very close to 0 °.

In the hour that followed, she moved to + 3 °.

And since then, it has stayed ...

Of course, it "bothers" me, in my "more than organic" garden, to have a predominantly nuclear electricity consumption.

Nothing is ever perfect in this world! Not even the weather, which forces me to resort to such contortions!

It's true that it's not glop

There is really no way to protect to avoid the worst without wanting to increase temperature?

Stagger the seedlings in time?
Is it a problem?

[denis17]

Personally, I still have not started my sowing. This year I try a new prossess, soaking seeds before germination of the first, potting and direct placement in the outdoor greenhouse.
Denis

[guibnd]

Personally, I still have not started my sowing. This year I try a new prossess, soaking seeds before germination of the first, potting and direct placement in the outdoor greenhouse.
Denis

yes it does. to avoid breaking brittle germs, you can do the J + 1 method (I think I saw this in Gilles Domenech's book, gardening on living soil ) (yes that's the 68 page) with a small control sample set to germinate a day before your seeding batch. as soon as your J + 1 sample starts to germinate, you know that your seed set will germinate the next day, leaving you with the day to sow your J-1 lot easily without the risk of breaking germs (you can do J + 2 or 3 to have more margin)

I do this especially for parsley whose sprouting is capricious and carrots too.

I put parsley seeds in a glass of water in the fridge (and the small sample J + 1 that goes with). in 5-6 days (less than a week) the small sample germinates and fissa, I will sow my parsley in place ... unbreakable!

[Did67]

It's true that it's not glop

There is really no way to protect to avoid the worst without wanting to increase temperature?

Stagger the seedlings in time?
Is it a problem?

Delaying becomes less and less obvious as you go up north and / or in altitude. The "time window" during which culture is possible is shrinking ... We are not equal!

I distinguish between fresh vegetables, for which I would like to have some "early vegetables", in the idea of ​​being as self-sufficient as possible (I am a big eater of salads, cabbage, tomatoes, etc ...) and vegetables for storage , for which it is useless to hurry ... With me, it is often 2 or 3 nights which pose a problem, no more. They can "shorten" my season by 1 month or more. Or 20%.

Again, understand the system well: it is not a greenhouse or a heated frame or trunk; this is an "anti-freeze" security that is only activated to spend the predictable difficult night (s) (which will come, or will not come - cf April 21 last year).

These are arbitrations that everyone will do.

For info, tonight:
- mini external temp at my station: - 5 ° C (at 2 m from the ground) [at the moment, towards 10 h 30, it is + 6 ° C, beautiful sun]
- temp mini in chassis with resistance: + 1,5 ° C [at the moment: + 25,7 ° C]
- temp min in chassis without resistance: - 3,5 ° C [at the moment: + 25,5 ° C]

The system therefore seems particularly effective to me, at a lower cost (and on condition that you put your "ultra" convictions in the closet).

[Did67]

I put parsley seeds in a glass of water in the fridge (and the small sample J + 1 that goes with).

Funny idea to put that in the fridge ????

- "vernalisation" (conservation of seeds in the cold) is a way of breaking any dormancy; so sometimes, this facilitates germination (this can also trigger a rise in seeds, the plant believing itself in the second year if it is a biennial); but this is before the germination phase ...

- the signal that triggers germination is the "rise" in temperatures that the seedling perceives ...

This seems to me still one of those counter-information which is commonplace ... Even if it works!

I suggest you still try with two glasses, one in the fridge and the other not, all other things being equal (same seed), just to see ... And tell us.

[guibnd]

Delaying becomes less and less obvious as you go up north and / or in altitude. The "time window" during which culture is possible is shrinking ... We are not equal!

Again, understand the system well: it is not a greenhouse or a heated frame or trunk; this is an "anti-freeze" security that is only activated to spend the predictable difficult night (s) (which will come, or will not come - cf April 21 last year).

The system therefore seems particularly effective to me, at a lower cost (and on condition that you put your "ultra" convictions in the closet).

yes, summers are short north of the Loire!
the '' time window '' of which didier can speak can be extremely short when the summer starts on June 30 and ends on September 1er, it is a reality some years!
and this cord underlayer heating only starts at night or during the day if it really quails, thanks to a thermostat and as the volume to be heated is very small, it must not consume masses.

[guibnd]

I put parsley seeds in a glass of water in the fridge (and the small sample J + 1 that goes with).

Funny idea to put that in the fridge ????

- "vernalisation" (conservation of seeds in the cold) is a way of breaking any dormancy; so sometimes, this facilitates germination (this can also trigger a rise in seeds, the plant believing itself in the second year if it is a biennial); but this is before the germination phase ...

- the signal that triggers germination is the "rise" in temperatures that the seedling perceives ...

This seems to me still one of those counter-information which is commonplace ... Even if it works!

I suggest you still try with two glasses, one in the fridge and the other not, all other things being equal (same seed), just to see ... And tell us.

yes, the shot of the fridge, I have trouble explaining myself too but everything in my fridge is even wondering if it's really cold in my fridge! however, my food is good and my butter is hard to spread in the morning!
I put tuberous chervil seeds in sand in a jam jar (covered hole) last December to stratify the seeds, my chervil seeds were (too) germinated in the jar of jam when I wanted them sow in February! fucking
a true sprouter my fridge

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Again, understand the system well: it is not a greenhouse or a heated frame or trunk; this is an "anti-freeze" security that is only activated to spend the predictable difficult night (s) (which will come, or will not come - cf April 21 last year).

For info, tonight:
- mini external temp at my station: - 5 ° C (at 2 m from the ground) [at the moment, towards 10 h 30, it is + 6 ° C, beautiful sun]
- temp mini in chassis with resistance: + 1,5 ° C [at the moment: + 25,7 ° C]
- temp min in chassis without resistance: - 3,5 ° C [at the moment: + 25,5 ° C]

It's sure that it will only affect a few nights finally ...

Given the results obtained with the P30 under the tunnel at home I would be tempted to tell you to test with this type of protection also ....

I tell you this because I was very surprised by the results.

I'm going to test it outside under the chassis ... when I've made them ... that's to say, I HOPE before the end of the frosts to see a little what that gives.

[Did67]

Yes, you're right, I have to try that too!

[Did67]

yes, the shot of the fridge, I have trouble explaining myself too but everything in my fridge is even wondering if it's really cold in my fridge! however, my food is good and my butter is hard to spread in the morning!
I put tuberous chervil seeds in sand in a jam jar (covered hole) last December to stratify the seeds, my chervil seeds were (too) germinated in the jar of jam when I wanted them sow in February! fucking
a true sprouter my fridge

My astonishment was not so much the fact that it sprouts: in the crisper or low fridges, we often have + 8 ° C.

I wondered if this was germinating better ? Beyond a few specific "vegetables", from our regions with "harsh" winter, for which indeed, the evoked vernalization can be a lifting of inhibition (or "dormancy") ....