Le Potager du Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio

Agriculture and soil. Pollution control, soil remediation, humus and new agricultural techniques.
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by sicetaitsimple » 25/02/18, 12:58

Ahmed wrote:it is that it essentially aims at the pursuit of a societal model which is not sustainable and cannot be generalized.


If restoring fertile soil is the pursuit of an unsustainable and non-generalizable societal model, I definitely don't understand you.
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Mixieer56 » 25/02/18, 14:07

"The decrease in earthworms is not making the headlines. However, it is just as serious as global warming. We must warn about the importance of preserving nature in this form which is close to us but that most of the time we ignore, because it just works "

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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Ahmed » 25/02/18, 14:24

Sicetaitsimple, perhaps it was a little elliptical in terms of formulation, but I believed it to be clear: what is not sustainable and generalizable is, as indicated in the quoted sentence, "the societal model" and not an agronomic model oriented towards a massive supply of carbonaceous materials. The second sentence clarified the first from this point of view.
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by sicetaitsimple » 25/02/18, 14:46

Well, let's say that it was "elliptical" .... What would be interesting is that you start speaking in less "elliptical" terms in the "peasant" threads, even if it means keeping in dedicated threads to (which interest only) a few happy few who will recognize the height of flight that suits them.
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Mrik » 25/02/18, 16:42

Julienmos wrote:small question, I have leeks in the garden that I take as needed.

As Siberian temperatures are announced next week, (with -3 ° at the best of the day!), The soil is likely to freeze deep, making the harvest probably impossible.

What do you do in this case? (I know, you have to eat something else) : Cheesy:


the organic farm where I buy my vegetables (since my talents as a phenocultor do not yet allow me to produce enough :?) harvested everything and put it in the fridge before the temperatures drop (even the leeks)
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Ahmed » 25/02/18, 18:23

I have used the term "elliptical" out of courtesy, but I am generally very precise about the use of the vocabulary, but I do not want to make river messages and that wishing to be concise, I am therefore quite willing to explain or develop each point that is the subject of a request.
I can only deplore that my courtesy hardly finds an echo with you, if I judge from the condescending tone of your remarks.
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by sicetaitsimple » 25/02/18, 18:52

If you judged the condescending tone, you will excuse me, it was absolutely not my intention.
I'm just saying that your speech is often difficult to understand, even if it is indeed very precise.
However, when it comes to changing the belt of a grinder, you get to be precise but at the same time understandable.
Well, it must be my doing, it doesn't really matter ....

Still, I still haven't understood why "restoring fertile soil is the pursuit of an unsustainable and non-generalizable societal model,
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Mrik » 25/02/18, 19:10

mrik wrote:
Julienmos wrote:small question, I have leeks in the garden that I take as needed.

As Siberian temperatures are announced next week, (with -3 ° at the best of the day!), The soil is likely to freeze deep, making the harvest probably impossible.

What do you do in this case? (I know, you have to eat something else) : Cheesy:


the organic farm where I buy my vegetables (since my talents as a phenocultor do not yet allow me to produce enough :?) harvested everything and put it in the fridge before the temperatures drop (even the leeks)


you can also put your leeks in a bucket of sand in your garage
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by Ahmed » 25/02/18, 19:14

No problem! 8)

I readily admit that there are more complex subjects than others; they are intrinsically so or by the fact that the words do not always have the same meaning according to the speaker's reading grid (and I can't help it). For example, repairing a shredder comes from a fairly limited and easily understandable technical field ... at least by those who master the vocabulary (which is not necessarily the case for all; I will also go to the forum Usinages.com and some messages are particularly airtight because of approximate French *).

Let's come back to our sheep: I wanted to express the fact that what motivates this sudden enthusiasm for the restoration of soil fertility (which I can only approve!) Does not in any way result from the desire to remedy agronomic errors, but to in this way, bypass what appears ** (the increase in CO²) as a stumbling block to the dominant growing vision of the world. If you will, it's a way to overcome a contradiction to take it to a higher level, but to escape it momentarily: it's a question of systemic logic, not of a global conspiracy or the act of horrible "banksters" !

* It is an observation, not a value judgment.
** Wrongly, moreover, but this focus on CO² avoids a more global and therefore more dangerous criticism ...
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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by sicetaitsimple » 25/02/18, 19:37

Ahmed wrote: I wanted to express the fact that what motivates this sudden craze for the restoration of soil fertility (which I can only approve!) does not in any way result from the desire to remedy agronomic errors, but to bypass this which appears ** (the increase in CO²) as a stumbling block to the dominant growing vision of the world. If you will, it's a way to overcome a contradiction to take it to a higher level, but to escape it momentarily: it's a question of systemic logic, not of a global conspiracy or the act of horrible "banksters" !


Yes, well ... I understood ... Nevertheless, we will be whether you like it or not about 9 billion inhabitants on earth in thirty years, that everyone will consume energy and will have want to eat. This is not a croissantist view, it is just (if the predictions turn out to be correct) a reality. What do we do?
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