Le Potager du Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio

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Re: The Kitchen Garden Sloth: Gardening without fatigue more than Bio




by sicetaitsimple » 11/12/17, 18:03

Did67 wrote:Me too, for simply "cardio" reasons, I strongly limit my consumption of red meat. Although carnivorous at heart. And through education.

For my 60 years, I made a derogation: a rib steak of one kg (which I shared).


I'm not a doctor, but I still think you can afford it a little more often than every ten years (sharing it)!

It is certain that current consumption of meat, particularly in developed countries, is very structuring for the agricultural sector in general, and that reducing it would not necessarily be a bad thing.

On a personal basis I use it, at least I try, but when certain (es) pass me under the nose (no, under the eyes) a rib of beef with fresh fries, I have a little trouble!
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by Did67 » 11/12/17, 18:24

sicetaitsimple wrote:
I'm not a doctor, but I still think you can afford it a little more often than every ten years (sharing it)!



I reassure you: once every ten years (I'll think: maybe five would be enough?), It's for gargantuan abuse! The coast of 1 kg ff, this no longer laughs.

I have to eat red meat two or three times a month ...
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by Cigalyves83 » 11/12/17, 19:54

Lolounette, you cut the hay under my feet!
I was going to intervene to say almost the same thing.
So dig the argument on a reduction of meat consumption to be able to phenoculate without feeling guilty : roll:
At home in the Var, the haystack of 11kg (I weighed 4 to make an average) costs 12 € ..... is 4,36 € the m2
This noble product is in great demand to feed the many horses and ponies I see piled up and sad in desert parks.
So I feel like feeding my worms to caviar! Birds appreciate, they are 3 X more numerous than before.
Following the advice of Didier, I pampered until finding boots 5 € because too rich in chicory mounted flowers!
Horses do not like!
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by Moindreffor » 11/12/17, 19:58

Did67 wrote:Me too, for simply "cardio" reasons, I strongly limit my consumption of red meat. Although carnivorous at heart. And through education.

For my 60 years, I made a derogation: a rib steak of one kg (which I shared).


it remains a derogation if you have not shared that with your wife, beyond it is just an abuse, plus it's a hearty meal and even more it's just follow your diet.

if not a happy birthday, if it is not so far apart as that
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by olivier75 » 11/12/17, 20:28

Hi,

Unfortunately the proportion of hay in the fattening of the meat that we consume and very low, and even worse if we start to consume better, it is precisely this one that needs pastures.

I remain in agreement with the criticism conveyed by Didier, I myself make an effort to avoid harvested hay by farmers. But you have to know where you place the cursor.

The low consumption of water and fossil fuel of our vegetables is enough to balance, even by buying a beautiful boot harvested and pressed by a large tractor.

Reported to the weight collected my mower is also not necessarily less oil consuming.

we just have to move in the right direction, each with its priorities.

I still doubt that transforming hay into methane for often just the pleasure of owning, without reciprocal relationship with his horses, even if it gives very natural images, be the right way.

Olivier.
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by Moindreffor » 11/12/17, 20:42

for me it's always a question of balance
is there too little hay to feed the animals?
are there too many animals for the amount of hay that can be harvested?
at home, some farmers do almost hay for sale, because there is a local market, and as usual this market is mainly geared towards breeding horses, the presence of a MFR equine breeding would it be the cause? : Mrgreen:
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by olivier75 » 11/12/17, 20:45

Another marketer who uses hay, despite the title.


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by Den54 » 12/12/17, 07:25

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Did67 wrote:
[Remember that I define myself as a "mediocre gardener" -


Wow, the other, he plants 250 salads of all kinds at once, he shows us the results on videos, and then he describes himself as a mediocre gardener!

If I buy a camera and begin to Youtuber my garden, my seedlings, .... you'll see what it is, a mediocre gardener (or rather, I hope, a gardener learning)! I exaggerate a bit, I have great satisfaction, but at the level of indoor seedling that I made for the first time this year is not the top .... It's dead to death, I wonder if it would not be necessary in my case to have an artificial lighting by LED.

PS: that's why I took the liberty of quoting a link just above, to "advertise" yourself it must seem inappropriate to you.


Hello, how glad I am to read this! As my only seedlings so far have been outdoor kale and chard seedlings; and all my tomato plants have been given to me so far, I was freaking out 'ink while thinking of all these seedlings which risked spinning. And I intended to broach this subject and that of the lighting (I saw videos already elsewhere with "sowing chamber and suspended lighting)
I hope to know more during the next page of my reading in progress) (488 page)
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by Did67 » 12/12/17, 09:02

On the claimed mediocrity, we will philosophize another day!

Regarding indoor planting, you can do what you want, plants will lack light: placed along my windows, crates receive only 50% of the luminous intensity = it is half outer sphere; the half-sphere which is turned towards the interior will have only a very weak light ...

At 1 m of a window or 2 m of a bay window, remains only 25%!

Our eyes permanently trap us because they adapt very quickly. With your camera, in manual mode, "measure" the speed / diaphragm couple on the inside and then on the outside and conclude (knowing that a double speed is half the light or one more diaphragm, c is also half the light).

So, on certain vegetables that are less demanding, or more "low to the ground" (salads), it will be less visible.

On others, it will be very much (tomatoes).

You can turn every 24 hours to prevent them from being "bent", it will remain that they will be etiolated ("spaghetti") - too elongated.

We can obviously use artificial lighting. Be careful, plants are sensitive to certain colors. We must prefer the purples and red, anything that deviates from the green! And then, we need high powers, much more than our "poor lighting", which is sufficient because our eyes accommodate (the proof: we use flashes to photograph indoors. But this is perfectly fine (especially for the production of "herbs" that some people smoke ...) With LEDs, it's a little less of a "chasm".
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by Did67 » 12/12/17, 09:06

Den54 wrote:And I intended to broach this subject and that of lighting (I have already seen videos elsewhere with "seed chamber and suspended lighting)
I hope to know more during the next page of my reading in progress) (488 page)
See you.


The first thing is to cultivate ... Zen. Who is doing well with laziness

For my part, the outer frames are sufficient. You have to "wait" for the ground to heat up anyway. Only one constraint, which I hope to remove this year: "open" and close (to avoid overheating, which is fatal, if the weather is very nice). I have to work a system of jacks! We do well to chat "sowing", I have to get the references of a good product that an ex-colleague told me about, then I imagine an appropriate "system", given the weight of my windows glazed.
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