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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by olivier75 » 17/11/17, 07:20

Sicetaitsimple,

I just mowed and picked up the grass, and suddenly removed the protection that was the hay on the ground. There is only 8/10 cm of soil, the trees which need water lose their fruit in summer.
It was difficult to walk, with rejections, today it is rather clean, even if
I let a part grow.
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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by sicetaitsimple » 17/11/17, 19:30

olivier75 wrote:I just mowed and picked up the grass, and suddenly removed the protection that was the hay on the ground. There is only 8/10 cm of soil, the trees which need water lose their fruit in summer.
It was difficult to walk, with rejections, today it is rather clean, even if
I let a part grow.
Olivier.


OK, so first of all a lack of water from your point of view? And yet the orchard had been installed for some time when you took it over?
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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by olivier75 » 17/11/17, 20:30

Hi,
The lack of water I can be almost certain since I will drop you the fruits in the summer.
The lack of fertility I can only assume.
These are old trees in pebbles, planted after the war, old but not always too much for those who remain.
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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by paysan.bio » 18/11/17, 08:11

olivier75 wrote:Hi,
The lack of water I can be almost certain since I will drop you the fruits in the summer.
The lack of fertility I can only assume.
These are old trees in pebbles, planted after the war, old but not always too much for those who remain.
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can you put a picture of the trees now?
I may have an idea of ​​the problem but it must be confirmed with a photo.
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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by Did67 » 18/11/17, 10:50

1) Trees get old anyway ... Planted "After the war ..." ... If they are in their fifties, they may be on the decline ...

2) A "certain" fall in fruit in the summer is normal. It is a "natural thinning". In particular, wormy fruits are often released in this way ...
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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by olivier75 » 18/11/17, 17:01

Hello,

Organic farmer,
there are the photos on page 1 of the thread, I will look if I have better.

Didier,
yes for plum trees, less for apple trees, not for pear trees (which in addition do not like limestone), even less for walnut trees, which have a physique of young cubs.
But the quetschiers of the valley, the years when there are quetsches of course, do not lose them, well not all like me, there are even good harvests, the same for cherry trees.
Apple and pear trees are not really concerned by the lack of water, (the roots are deeper) there I will lean more for the lack of fertility.

After this is not a super orchard, in the pebbles, planted with dynamite by ex German fireworks, impossible without a backhoe for the new ones, you need a pick for a 20cm3 hole for the vines, and obviously no post without auger on tractor. All in a cold corridor ...
If I start a second orchard in the valley it is not for nothing.


I made it clear to those from whom I take hay under their orchard that I also took fertility from them since they left the grass on the spot. But as they take me for a fool ...

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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by paysan.bio » 18/11/17, 17:20

for the diagnosis, I would need a photo of branches without the leaves.

I have already spotted that there are many branches in the middle of the trees and few well-arched branches outside.

if you started to cut, a recent photo would have allowed me to see if you are going the right way or not.

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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by olivier75 » 20/11/17, 10:28

Peasantbio,

I have not found publishable photos without sheets or characters, but I will make a series next time.

The apple trees are all empty of fruiting branches inside and the outside is drooping.
Plum trees; quetsches, mirabelle plums, Reine claude and the cherry trees are just cared for every breakage or decline.
Pear trees not much.
The just ventilated cognac trees.
Young people not yet really prune to strengthen the root system.

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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by olivier75 » 21/01/18, 22:34

Hi,

News with a little inventory on December 17.
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Probable passage of rabbits, plus a single leaf on the carrots, suddenly, harvest of the most beautiful.
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The small end of the valley, well covered with a small crop of radishes.
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garlic and shallots which is just starting to show up.
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Re: The lazy vegetable garden a we occasionally.




by olivier75 » 21/01/18, 22:45

The harvest of December 18.
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