Fight effectively against slugs!

[to be chafoin]

Yes of course,

I was gardening without metaldehyde and soon enough I gave up on ferramol or the beer traps that kept filling up, I happened to have "invasions". In general, any vegetable garden leaves more or less dead or living but fragile organic matter (young plants) available.

2 years ago, I tried to play on the humidity factors and I thought I saw an improvement: rigorously cut my grassy paths at the top of the ground around the edges of my flower beds even if it is a not tedious (but it's a small vegetable patch). Similarly, ash or sawdust arranged in a circle around the plants after the rain hinders movement. Perhaps very fine dry hay cut would play the same role? It can be renewed without problem, unlike ash. But this kind of action will remain useless as soon as the rain settles down ... And besides, the hay packed by the rain, if it is not consumed by the slugs, seems to be a good ramp the first leaves of plants .

I think that the environment of the garden must play a lot: forest, meadow ...

[to be chafoin]

I cowardly take revenge by scalding them

Monster!
You remind me of my father and a friend who go out at night with their scissors and prefer to cut all the slugs on the spot!

[Did67]

They are the ones who started !!!

Until then, I defended them. In all my confs, I remind you that you should never eradicate a "parasite", under penalty of starving the auxiliaries who feed on it and experiencing a worse situation later ...

There, I do not know why I know a worse situation without having eradicated! No hedgehog, why? Insufficient carabids, why ???

[Did67]

Record to beat: a friend, an agronomist, tells me that I have picked up 60 slugs from a bryone he had dug up!

[to be chafoin]

I share this link on slugs with a permacultural approach.
It is not necessarily my cup of tea but in this article (a little tote) we can learn things like:

some slugs could travel 1,5 km in one night!
the importance of slugs for mushrooms
they would consume cellulose, wood (so hay?)

https://permaforet.blogspot.fr/2014/07/ ... t-les.html

[Did67]

some slugs could travel 1,5 km in one night!
the importance of slugs for mushrooms
they would consume cellulose, wood (so hay?)

- for sure, they run, even if they do not go fast! But it does not say that at this distance it is "targeted" - one thing is to wander, another is to go towards your plants ... I saw traces left on the nylon tarpaulins from my greenhouse. In the morning, it can be seen in the dew covering it ... Well, it's a beautiful labyrinth. She made meters and meters, to finish a few meters from her starting point, not far from a cabbage!

- yes, they prefer certain mushrooms, including some toxic (for humans); I remember that there is on one of the wires the photo put by someone showing slugs en masse on a mushroom, 10 cm from its red cabbage, intact!

- gray slugs, or tigers, would indeed have this capacity ... Be careful not to put all the slugs in the same pot [it's a bit as if we were only talking about mammals, by putting whales, bears, bat in the same batch].

[to be chafoin]

To have ! I "rotofiled" part of "meadow" two days ago. Before, you do not see anything: they are at the bottom, at ground level, where the "dead leaves" are. After the cut, massive arrival of slugs on the flower beds ... I had "rotofiled" very close, like a golf green; so it's exposed ...

I checked well last night and I confirm that in the 2 meadows that I observed, the presence of slugs is anecdotal: a few small white slugs barely. I think that the vegetation of the grasses is too dense and not sufficiently "upright", it undergoes the effect of the wind and from a moment the stems lie down. Even if I look at the mown meadow (for almost 2 months already) around my vegetable garden I don't see so many slugs while "hay" is lying around here and there. But a few meters away, on my flower beds, on my potato plants, tomato, pepper, on the black seedbed and weeds that I mowed this afternoon they abound, and not only small ones!

Besides, I notice that the slugs seem to like to gain altitude on the mustard. They drag on the stem to the flowers at almost 1m50,2m!
The bait system with white mustard in bloom, cut and left near the plants works only in part: orange and white slugs on it without my plants being spared.

[to be chafoin]

- yes, they prefer certain mushrooms, including some toxic (for humans); I remember that there is on one of the wires the photo put by someone showing slugs en masse on a mushroom, 10 cm from its red cabbage, intact!

The author speaks above all about the dissemination of fungus spores through the digestive system of slugs which would not digest them but would provide them with good conditions to "germinate".

[Did67]

The author speaks above all about the dissemination of fungus spores through the digestive system of slugs which would not digest them but would provide them with good conditions to "germinate".

Yes, there are both:

- certain slugs eat the mushrooms, which attract them ... The collectors know that if they do not collect certain mushrooms very quickly, they are sometimes dug ...

- and indeed, Hervé Coves tells how the fight against slugs resulted in a decrease in the production of truffles ...

[to be chafoin]

The author speaks above all about the dissemination of fungus spores through the digestive system of slugs which would not digest them but would provide them with good conditions to "germinate".

Yes, there are both:

- certain slugs eat the mushrooms, which attract them ... The collectors know that if they do not collect certain mushrooms very quickly, they are sometimes dug ...

- and indeed, Hervé Coves tells how the fight against slugs resulted in a decrease in the production of truffles ...

Yes so the control of slugs is subtle ... For the moment I remove everything I see because I tell myself that there are plenty of others hidden, but how do you know if you are not going "too much" remove some and suddenly penalize the cycles of living things?