Eat meat, what impact on the planet?

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by Obamot » 04/09/12, 20:03

Janic wrote:at the moment on the newspaper france 2 "are we condemned to become vg by the middle of this century"


Honestly Janic ... By hearing you you would think that suddenly, by some unknown miracle, people would have become lucid with a simple wand! If at least ...

But it is not so and I find that you do not lack air!

It is not so much because of any health problem, but because there is a shortage of water in the world, and consequently on farms, depriving the elevators ... of water.

It's not very fairplay on your part not to give the reason ... !!! :|
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by Janic » 05/09/12, 07:54

obamot hello
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at the moment on the newspaper france 2 "are we condemned to become vg by the middle of this century"


Honestly Janic ... By hearing you you would think that suddenly, by some unknown miracle, people would have become lucid with a simple wand! If at least ...

But it is not so and I find that you do not lack air!

on the one hand I only point out what is extremely rare on a "state" radio (it's more the fact of Arté) and as if by chance it falls just when the subject is debating on this site.
So the few speakers, right here, are supposed to have seen earthlings or the meat info site where all this info given on France 2 is widely developed including the crucial problem of water.
It is not so much because of any health problem, but because there is a shortage of water in the world, and consequently on farms, depriving the elevators ... of water.

Indeed, but it is a flash, not a report or documentary. So far the water problem has been presented as a waste of the wealthy and a tragedy for populations who do not have access to it. Farmers were criticized for their massive watering of corn for example, but without making the connection that this corn was for breeding and that it was the one that was the cause, so it's new. But even if there was an abundance of water, it would be the problem of the agricultural areas used for animal husbandry which would become crucial, it would then be necessary to choose between feeding the animals or feeding the humans with a moment of strangulation between the of them.
Likewise, slaughterhouses are more and more shown (but modestly) on this information and generally once the animal is killed and immobile, never when it struggles with its throat cut and the butcher begins to cut it still alive . Do humans have a hard heart, and how far, and indifferent to suffering and death?
It's not very fairplay on your part not to give the reason ... !!!

The reasons are found on meat.info assumed already read.
On the survey where 12 people expressed themselves few could go to the end: why? Do they feel guilty about being the ones asking for this violence and do they give themselves a good conscience by returning to their steak? Is their consciousness awakening but does appetite or indifference prevail? The poll is silent on these points and has hardly been expressed.
The reasons are therefore not exclusively water, it is a set of phenomena which are added to arrive at a point of no return and therefore human dramas since the drama of the animals hardly seems to move!
This site is interested in ecology! So it would be only from the ecological point of view the consumption of meat is an abbheration. Remember the subject on world hunger and the bidoche is not the solution, on the contrary!
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by Janic » 05/09/12, 09:06

another media that opens up on the subject:
http://www.liberation.fr/sciences/2012/ ... nce_842936
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by Christophe » 26/02/15, 16:47

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by Christophe » 26/02/15, 19:23

Ah yes it was one of the subjects of an evening at the Eiffel Tower last night: http://www.france2.fr/emissions/un-soir ... 015_305429
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by NicoleSainte » 27/02/15, 02:06

Hello,
I completely agree with the subject of this subject ... I did not want to watch the video because I have already seen a lot of this kind ... I also eat a lot less meat and not all because of animal abuse and I feel guilty every time I eat it now. I think the videos showing all the horror of the meat industry should be broadcast as much as possible to educate people but the harshness, the cruelty of these videos put off people too much to share them because this is really taboo and they are not ready to accept the truth face to face because they want to continue to be able to eat while keeping a good conscience and not to feel guilty .........
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by Janic » 16/02/16, 11:24

this evening on France 5 in the world opposite "a world without meat" followed by a debate.
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by Macro » 16/02/16, 15:39

Bof .. in 5 or 10 years they will take the same frame by titling "a world without vegetable proteins" ...

Rather than tickle your egot by checking the bullshit of France TV ... Rather trust Otzi ...

5500 years before France 2 he lived at 1500m above sea level in the Alps, was affected by teigna and lymes disease and had reached the age of 46 before being assassinated (long enough to reproduce). .. by eating cereals, greenery, and ibex ....
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by chatelot16 » 16/02/16, 19:33

of course there are animal husbandry that are not very efficient ecologically

but some pigs on a farm, it eats waste

some goose weeds some crops, and it also makes meat when it goes to the pan

the big problem is that I see around me farmers in difficulty with old activities considered as archaic by the current administration when they should be right ... and that there is nothing I can do to help them
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by Christophe » 16/02/16, 21:15

The best meat to raise at home is easily ... it's chickens!

They too eat almost all the waste ... and above all it is growing at a crazy speed!

A "battery" chicken is 21 days of growth!

I'm not saying that you have to get to this extreme and especially with the same homemade methods, but that gives an idea of ​​the growth of chickens.

Chicken meat is certainly the most environmentally friendly (if it is not full of crap of course ... I'm talking about the CO2 level and the energy required to produce 1kg of meat) ... and it is therefore the most accessible by "car "production (provided you have the possibility of doing it discreetly enough and that the administration does not come to screw its nose in ...)
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